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ITSUKO
Yellow Belt
Joined: 20 Dec 2003
Posts: 29
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 Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:00 am Post subject: loyalty???? |
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| This subject has always bothering me. I realize that each MA system has its strong and weak points. Should I cross-training with other systems to enhance my MA ability or should I be loyal to one sensei and one system? Please help..........! |
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WolverineGuy
Red Belt
Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Posts: 753
Location: Flint, MI
Styles: Kalkinodo, San Chin Ryu, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:18 am Post subject: |
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I'm a firm believer in cross training. My first sensei told me that cross training was a bad idea and very useless. I now realize it was because that art was ridiculously limiting in any application (i.e. McDojo).
In summary, if your goal is to have a complete game, cross train. 
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CaptainHeelHook
White Belt
Joined: 30 Dec 2003
Posts: 5
Styles: Kickboxing, BJJ
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Crosstrain my friend. The glaring weakness of one art will be completemented by the obvious strengths of another. Just choose wisely.
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Icetuete
Black Belt
Joined: 17 May 2003
Posts: 1025
Location: Germany
Styles: ITF Taekwondo
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:44 am Post subject: |
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do whatever makes u happy. if you feel ur style has a lack of something and wish to compensate with another then feel free to do so. no sensei will be insulted if you visit another dojo. my instructor is happy when students go get different impressions (at least he says he was   )
every system has something to offer, so why not go check one out? |
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karatekid1975
KF VIP
Joined: 26 Mar 2002
Posts: 4588
Location: Upstate NY
Styles: Tang Soo Do/TKD/jujitsu
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| WolverineGuy wrote: |
I'm a firm believer in cross training. My first sensei told me that cross training was a bad idea and very useless. I now realize it was because that art was ridiculously limiting in any application (i.e. McDojo).
In summary, if your goal is to have a complete game, cross train. |
One of my old instructors said that. I didn't agree with him. I wanted more self defense and more ground game, but he wouldn't let me cross train  I left soon there after.
My instructor now doesn't care if we cross train. I wanted to take Judo at one point, and he said go for it. The only problem was that our style is mixed with some Judo type stuff, and I would have gotten confused.
Anyways, cross training is good. Just make sure that the art you cross train in, isn't similar. It may get confusing. A striking art and a grappling art are a good pair.
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CanuckMA
Orange Belt
Joined: 18 Dec 2003
Posts: 112
Location: Toronto
Styles: Wado
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| karatekid1975 wrote: |
One of my old instructors said that. I didn't agree with him. I wanted more self defense and more ground game, but he wouldn't let me cross train I left soon there after.
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I've always been amazed and confused about statements of that type. How can your instructor NOT LET YOU cross-train?
You sign up for a different style and attend both dojos. This is not feudal Japan. The Sensei does not have that kind of power over you. |
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karatekid1975
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Joined: 26 Mar 2002
Posts: 4588
Location: Upstate NY
Styles: Tang Soo Do/TKD/jujitsu
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Sorry. Let me use the correct word .... he didn't WANT me to cross train, but I took up Judo just before I left there. So, yea, I did both for a while.
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aefibird
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2003
Posts: 4416
Location: UK
Styles: Past and present: 2 styles of Karate, TKD, Aikido, Wing Chun, some Tai Chi
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Cross-training is a good thing IMO. It can only help to extend your MA knowledge, not hinder it.
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CanuckMA
Orange Belt
Joined: 18 Dec 2003
Posts: 112
Location: Toronto
Styles: Wado
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| karatekid1975 wrote: |
| Sorry. Let me use the correct word .... he didn't WANT me to cross train, but I took up Judo just before I left there. So, yea, I did both for a while. |
Same thing. Not want, not let. Either way, he's trying to control a part of your life he has no control over. |
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Drunken Monkey
Black Belt
Joined: 10 Apr 2002
Posts: 3559
Location: bar italia
Styles: white chocolate profiteroles and natas....
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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i think you've got to be sensible.
after all, there's a big difference between loyalty and blind devotion.
on the other hand, do you think you have learnt enough from your current art?
i personally don't think it's worth looking at other martial arts until you really are versed with your 'original'.
by all means go and train in other arts.
just be wary of being the proverbial jack of trades but master of none.
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