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KickChick
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Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2002 11:15 am Post subject: Martial Art as Magic |
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I just finished reading an article entitled:
"Magic as Martial Art" http://www.leirpoll.com/martialart.htm ...which compared the many similarities that exist between martial arts (Aikido) and magic.
I posted this here as the article spotlights Aikido and the fact that the key point of Aikido is to redirect your opponent's energy and that in order for it to be an effective method of self-defense, it is totally dependent on a strong attack. The question the author poses is "Could the same be true for Magic"...
Good magicians use Aikido principles and good martial arts performers use misdirection!
It's pretty interesting! |
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LeaF
Black Belt
Joined: 31 Jul 2002
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Location: North of the 49
Styles: Goju Ryu Karate-do and Okinawan Kobudo
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Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2002 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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cool article Kickchick, thanks for posting it _________________ Goju Ryu Karate-do and Okinawan Kobudo, 17 Years Old 1st kyu Brown Belt in in Goju Ryu Karate-do, & Shodan in Okinawan Kobudo
Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result.
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Kensai
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Location: Britain
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Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2002 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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That was a great link, I have heard my Sensei give similar stories.
Feel Nothing, Think Nothing, Be Nothing and no-one can hurt you. Its called "moving the mind", for example when you strike, you are thinking about the point of impact and if you are not thinking about it, your Ki is there. But if you redirect, cut and drop the Ki, your attacker will go with it.
One time my Sensei asked me to root myself to the ground, then he tried to push me over and could not. But then he just placed his finger on the top of my skull, then gently pull me back on my shoulder, and i fell like a shack of bricks. You cant expect to move a man when he wants to stay. But if you make him stop thinking about it, then he is yours to command. IN the same way that magic works, when you think its being dohe, its been done and you are being fooled.
Thanks for posting it.
Take Care |
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Thai_Kick
Orange Belt
Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 207
Location: Ontario, Canada
Styles: Muay Thai, JKD and Kali
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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This is what happens when you combine Magic and Martial arts in one. I hope you get a good laugh, I know I did!
http://streetcombat.8m.com/main.html _________________ Limits Are Not Accepted. They Are Elbowed, Kicked And Punched. |
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shotochem
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 29 Dec 2001
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Location: New York
Styles: Shotokan, Kempo, BJJ, Baby-Do-Jitsu
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thai kick,
Now that is
Warrior magicians who wudda thunk it??? _________________ Pain is only temporary, the memory of that pain lasts a lifetime. |
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Aikidoka
Orange Belt
Joined: 31 Aug 2001
Posts: 132
Location: York, UK
Styles: Tomiki Aikido
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Thanks KickChick, that was a very interesting read. As a practioner of Tomiki (sport) Aikido, I am always learning about the psychology of Aiki, and I think that magic also shares mental principles with Aikido in a literal way. Both require domination of the attacker/spectator's mind; you decide what they concentrate on, you must be the only one who is truly aware of everything that is happening. I don't want my attacker to realise that he has the ability to defeat me, I want them to worry about what will happen to them if they try to strike. Similarly the magician cannot allow the spectator to realise that he an opportunity to work out the trick (like in the shuffling example), they must be made to concentrate on what's may or may not be about to happen.
That other website is truly bizarre Thai Kick, but I'll try to keep an open mind. |
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Kensai
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Location: Britain
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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ANOTHER AIKIDOKA (even if it is TOMIKI <JOKE>)!
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KickChick
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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I caught this magician/illusionists tv show the other night and he does blow Copperfield and Blaine away! As they say in the media "Utterly captivating! A devilishly clever, magical showThe New York Post); Remarkable and entertaining(The New York Times); A splashy spectacle, engaging and eye-popping(The Daily News); Angel would eat David Copperfields liver with a nice Chianti and spit a bats head in David Blaines face (Time Out New York) And, on a recent appearance, Howard Stern called Criss Angel an amazing illusionistthe best I've ever seen!
http://www.crissangel.com/
He also practiced martial arts and pyrotechnics .
Another martial artist/magician: Jeff McBride http://www.yourmagic.com/artists/JeffMcBride.html
"The fire marshal may get nervous when Jeff McBride comes to town.
This Las Vegas-based magician combines illusion, martial arts, kabuki, costuming, shamanism and a lot of fire in his techno-tribal magic shows." |
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