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scohen.mma
Orange Belt
Joined: 18 Mar 2012
Posts: 142
Location: Long Island, New York
Styles: Matsubayashi-Ryu, Kaze No Ryu Bugei Ogawa Ha
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 Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject: Meditation and Martial Arts |
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I've recently become so in love with Martial Arts and my practice of Shorin-Ryu Karate, that i'm even interested in Meditation. My school offers Kaze No-Ryu Bugei, Shorin-Ryu Karate, Japanese Judo, and some Koryu Uchinadi.
One of my Sensei's, Tony Aloe, said that we are essentially being trained as a Samurai (not as intense obviously). How did the Samurai meditate? what did they put on their minds, and how? How long? I was watching The Last Samurai, and when they looked like they were meditating, they would softy chant something that i didnt understand, is there something like that i should look into?
another thing, there is a UFC fighter who religiously practices Shotokan Karate. his name is Lyoto Machida, and i saw him meditating in one of his videos. I'm guessing he incorporates his meditation with his Martial Arts. something like that is what i want to know as well.
Any information on how i can start meditation in a Samurai way is greatly appreciated! 
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MasterPain
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
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Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Backyard Kali, Satsui no Hadou
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Read the Book of Five Rings. Musashi was the man.
Apart from that, the samurai were Japanese soldiers in a different age and culture. You could go through their rituals, without gaining much, because they had different beliefs and cultural reasons behind their rituals. Unless you were raised with Shinto and Buddhism, along with being part of a class of warrior nobility, the ritual would be mostly academic value.
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scohen.mma
Orange Belt
Joined: 18 Mar 2012
Posts: 142
Location: Long Island, New York
Styles: Matsubayashi-Ryu, Kaze No Ryu Bugei Ogawa Ha
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| MasterPain wrote: |
Read the Book of Five Rings. Musashi was the man.
Apart from that, the samurai were Japanese soldiers in a different age and culture. You could go through their rituals, without gaining much, because they had different beliefs and cultural reasons behind their rituals. Unless you were raised with Shinto and Buddhism, along with being part of a class of warrior nobility, the ritual would be mostly academic value. |
Thankyou!!! i'll look him up. i actually discovered one of his quotes earlier:
“Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men.”
Miyamoto Musashi
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MasterPain
Black Belt
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Location: Parts Unknown
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Backyard Kali, Satsui no Hadou
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I can do you a favor here. At the bottom of the page are links to the rest of the book. This is a staple read for martial artists of all styles.
http://www.cyberpathway.com/musashi/index.html
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Zaine
Black Belt
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 2279
Location: Dallas, TX
Styles: Matsumura-Seito, Shobayashi-Ryu, Shudokan, Long Fist, American Street Karate, Southern Mantis, HEMA
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Musashi is, to put it lightly, the authority in this kind thing.
Meditation (for those who don't practice Shinto or Buddhism) is still a great way to calm yourself before and after practice. I recommend to anyone who struggles grasping something in any Martial Arts. Sometimes our minds get so clogged by all the information that we are supposed to remember that certain things don't "click" until we are able to sort everything out and a good way to do this is through meditation.
I would definitely look into it if it's something that you're interested in.
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SavageGeek
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Joined: 09 Mar 2012
Posts: 3
Location: Tennessee
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Semi off-topic, but since you said "being trained as a Samurai" ... thought I'd recommend Inazo Nitobe's Bushido: The Soul of Japan. It doesn't deal with meditation at all, but it probes pretty deeply into the subject of the Samurai code of ethics and its related behaviors and the thought behind it.
Print copies are available and it's also online (it was published in 1905 so its in the public domain):
http://www.sacred-texts.com/shi/bsd/index.htm |
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tallgeese
Black Belt
Joined: 04 May 2008
Posts: 6879
Location: McHenry County, IL
Styles: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Gokei Ryu Kempo Jutsu, MMA, Shootfighting, boxing, kickboxing, JKD, Pekiti Tersia Kali
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MadMartialArts
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Joined: 27 May 2012
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Location: Florida
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I do martial arts and yoga and find the two to be very complementary. When it comes down to it, the point of it all is to learn awareness and to maintain your calm (fudoshin - immovable heart) even in the fray of battle. Meditation, which is an integral part of yoga, helps with all of that.
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sensei8
KF Sensei
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Posts: 16430
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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| MasterPain wrote: |
Read the Book of Five Rings. Musashi was the man.
Apart from that, the samurai were Japanese soldiers in a different age and culture. You could go through their rituals, without gaining much, because they had different beliefs and cultural reasons behind their rituals. Unless you were raised with Shinto and Buddhism, along with being part of a class of warrior nobility, the ritual would be mostly academic value. |
Solid post!!
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Kevin Wilson
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Joined: 24 Aug 2011
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Location: Livingston , Scotland
Styles: Shotokan
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on the post.
