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Prototype
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 Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:19 am Post subject: Opinions on this kata delivery |
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Since I don''t know how Karatekas evaluate kata performances, could you give your opinions on this guys delivery. Is he too stiff or is it according to the book?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtiK0dIg-_I&t=9s |
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mushybees
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I don't practise shotokan but it looks like a powerful performance. It was fast and accurate when it was meant to and it had tension where it was intended. To my eyes only.
He didn't look stiff to me. Any tension seemed deliberate. |
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singularity6
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Joined: 26 Jun 2017
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Location: Michigan
Styles: Jidokwan Taekwondo and Hapkido, Yoshokai Aikido, ZNIR Iaido, Kendo
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I think one's perception is based on the style. My personal impression? Well, I think it looked great. He looked very relaxed, but exploded with power and speed at seemingly appropriate times. Aside from the pair of double middle-high blocks he did about 3/4 of the way through, his hand-foot timing was great (I suspect this was done intentionally, though.) He also put his hips into all blocks and hand strikes. All motions were done with great precision.
I say 2 thumbs up.
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sensei8
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Answering your question with my own question...Compare your link with the following link...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXPZFarJMh0
Does my link shed light??
Imho...I'd score it on a 10.0 scale...9.59
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Prototype
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| sensei8 wrote: |
Answering your question with my own question...Compare your link with the following link...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXPZFarJMh0
Does my link shed light??
Imho...I'd score it on a 10.0 scale...9.59
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Your link is worse. |
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P.A.L
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Location: Texas
Styles: Shorin-ryu
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| sensei8 wrote: |
Answering your question with my own question...Compare your link with the following link...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXPZFarJMh0
Does my link shed light??
Imho...I'd score it on a 10.0 scale...9.59
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Your link is worse. |
if you think that is worse , then watch this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMDvrAkdTdY
the first link you posted was very technical and clean ,you can hope for a trophy . the second link is pure budo , focus and power . that man is a legend .i am not a fan of Shotokan style but I have most respect for men like Kanazawa. the third link i posted is a Okinawan version from Tomari village one of the birth places of Karate and as you can see the third one is even less technical, even sloppy. I enjoy all of them .
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sensei8
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| sensei8 wrote: |
Answering your question with my own question...Compare your link with the following link...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXPZFarJMh0
Does my link shed light??
Imho...I'd score it on a 10.0 scale...9.59
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Your link is worse. |
In what way is my link worse??
The karateka in my link is Kanazawa Sensei, a recognized Master of impeccable lineage and the like. I picked that particular video because you were asking..."Is he too stiff or is it according to the book?", and imho, Kanazawa Sensei is a recognized authority on Kata, including the Kata in question.
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Prototype
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| sensei8 wrote: |
| Prototype wrote: |
| sensei8 wrote: |
Answering your question with my own question...Compare your link with the following link...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXPZFarJMh0
Does my link shed light??
Imho...I'd score it on a 10.0 scale...9.59
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Your link is worse. |
In what way is my link worse??
The karateka in my link is Kanazawa Sensei, a recognized Master of impeccable lineage and the like. I picked that particular video because you were asking..."Is he too stiff or is it according to the book?", and imho, Kanazawa Sensei is a recognized authority on Kata, including the Kata in question.
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The guy below, Shihan Mirce Opeloski, is a far superior, explosive Karateka even well past his prime than prime Kanazawa
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkt60LBa1_s |
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sensei8
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Are we addressing your question or are we comparing one Karateka to another?? Either way is an opinion!! The Karateka in the OP video link, imho, was quite affable in his execution of said Kata in question. The Karateka in your OP video link doesn't appear overly stiff, and the way that he executes said Kata is according to his style.
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Prototype
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| sensei8 wrote: |
Are we addressing your question or are we comparing one Karateka to another?? Either way is an opinion!! The Karateka in the OP video link, imho, was quite affable in his execution of said Kata in question. The Karateka in your OP video link doesn't appear overly stiff, and the way that he executes said Kata is according to his style.
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Kanazawa was great for his time, but he is no way comparable to the best kata performers of today. You just mentioned him because he is famous. Watch Mirces tsuki and stance age 55+. There is no comparision. |
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