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Sasori_Te
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:28 pm    Post subject: preventing corruption and politics in Karate ... How? Reply with quote

This again is inspired by another post. What sort of checks and balances could be put in place to prevent the spread of corruption and politics in our art? I'm speaking of karate generically as any system that has it's heritage in the Okinawan art of Karate. How can we, as hopefully honorable practitioners, do this?
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karate_woman
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Styles: Kickboxing,Okinawan Goju Ryu Karate, Judo, JuJitsu,T'ai Chi, QiGong

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. I don't think you really can keep "politics" out of anything. Wherever people gather, alliances, cliques, gossip and politics rear their ugly heads. All you can really do as a person/martial artist is to do your best to stay out of it whenever possible.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just train. That what I do.
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CodyydoC
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Joined: 16 Aug 2003
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Location: tennessee
Styles: muay thai, shensei hapkido, hapkido, aikido, juijitsu (not sure which one)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hypothetical situation;

if u were to defend urself against, say a common person who's had a bad day, and u use a move that brakes something, or if u TAKE THE KNIFE AWAY FROM THEM and use it against them (which u normally shouldnt do if ur such a better fighter than them that u can take that knife, but this is a hypothetical situation), they could sue and probably win because u are a martial artist
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karate_woman
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CodyydoC wrote:
hypothetical situation;

if u were to defend urself against, say a common person who's had a bad day, and u use a move that brakes something, or if u TAKE THE KNIFE AWAY FROM THEM and use it against them (which u normally shouldnt do if ur such a better fighter than them that u can take that knife, but this is a hypothetical situation), they could sue and probably win because u are a martial artist


They might be able to attempt to sue, but given the nature of their attack (attack with a weapon), I seriously doubt they'd get anywhere. I've been taught that when a knife comes out you are going to get cut; if the person's arm happens to get broken as I'm trying to defend myself , and I use only the force necessary and don't go overboard, I think I'd be just fine. However, I'm a small woman, and while I have a black belt, I'm not so arrogant as to believe myself invincible; if someone was a knife defense specialist and went ballistic on the person then maybe the suing attempt might be successful.
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CodyydoC
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was just tryin to point out that martial artist do tend to get screwed in the courtroom
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Sasori_Te
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm referring to dojo politics and money for rank. That kind of thing.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:13 pm    Post subject: politic Reply with quote

sasori-te in the begining I was just like you,I founded weir to had to pay for ranking plus in some school you have to pay for stripes so if you have 3 stripes to change to the next belt at the end the art is prety expencive.but in one school when it was the time for grading the sensei took us in a room all alone and we would spend the hole hour with him,so I kind a put it more like a private lesson guest it a way to look at it.but like I already said some school are selling there black belt and it a fact but at the end we train for the street and we have to stay focus on that.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my yelllow tip for 780 Baht.
I wish you could not paid for belts only lessons. and when you reach your goal you just get your belt for free. Oh 1 lesson cost 325 Baht around £5 or $10.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Budo mean Martial ways just ask me i know every single words for karate am faster than dictionary so ask me
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