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Thai_Kick
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ortiz a legend? ROFL!


Tito beat Ken Shamrock, no wait! Tito Oritz destroyed Shamrock, there are not many fighters in these world that could have done what Ortiz did to the legend Ken Shamrock. After watching this fight I doubt there are many people waiting in line to fight Ortiz. Now Ortiz fighting Nogueira, Sapp, or any Graice would be AMAZING to watch, yet he would give all these fighters a run for their money. Sure Ortiz talks A LOT of smack, but he proves himself ever time he steps in the ring and beats some punhisment into his opponents. I don't like Ortiz, but this man deserves everyones respect.

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I'd love to see Vitor Belfort vs Tito Ortiz fight.


Tito Ortiz would KO Belfort, just like his friend Chuck Liddell did! A good fight would be Vanderlei Silva vs. Tito Ortiz again. GO VANDERLEI SILVA!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what? if that, Kazushi Sakuraba, Wallid Ismael, who defeated a legend like Royce Gracie are legends too, and Vitor Belfort who defeated Tank Abott is a legend too.. wait! everyone is a legend!

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Ortiz a legend? ROFL!


Tito beat Ken Shamrock, no wait! Tito Oritz destroyed Shamrock, there are not many fighters in these world that could have done what Ortiz did to the legend Ken Shamrock.


He wouldn't have any chance, they are too high for him..

Thai_Kick wrote:

After watching this fight I doubt there are many people waiting in line to fight Ortiz. Now Ortiz fighting Nogueira, Sapp, or any Graice would be AMAZING to watch, yet he would give all these fighters a run for their money. Sure Ortiz talks A LOT of smack, but he proves himself ever time he steps in the ring and beats some punhisment into his opponents. I don't like Ortiz, but this man deserves everyones respect.


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I'd love to see Vitor Belfort vs Tito Ortiz fight.


LOL!, Thai_kick Vitor Belfort only had 2 weeks of preparation for that fight, he was out of shape, if he would prepared well, he'll destroyed Lidell, and Tito is a pice of cake for him.. You'll see it if that fight gets

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Tito Ortiz would KO Belfort, just like his friend Chuck Liddell did! A good fight would be Vanderlei Silva vs. Tito Ortiz again. GO VANDERLEI SILVA!


I Agree, it would be an interesting match, probably we see it again next year.
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Thai_Kick
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kazushi Sakuraba already is a legend in Japan, long before he fought Royce. UFC Brazil was a pay off to the Brazilians, that whole event was crap, put Tank vs. Vitor again and Tank would cream him! Vitor is seriously over rated and everyone knows it, so his part of "Brazilian Top Team" who cares! The majority of his fights have been to "B" class fighters, his only respectable wins have been to Vanderlei Silva and Heath Herring. Yet Chuck Liddell has fought manily "A" class fighters like Kevin Randelman, Guy Mezger, Murilo Bustamante, Amar Suloev, Paul Jones, Vitor Belfort and he beat them all.
Venezolano you are the only guy I know that thinks Vitor would have beat Liddell.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2002 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thai_Kick, I will say what I please.

Because I can.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2002 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B fighters? Tito too!

Tito has won only to these famous fighters:

Guy Mezger (second time, because first Guy won)
Vanderlei Silva (and by decision, Vitor won by KO
Elvis Sinosic (here tito fought very good, i accept it)
Ken Shamrock (he fought good too)

And yes, i think Vitor could beat Chuck if he trains hard before the fight.

Anyway, let's wait to next year too see if we can see a Ortiz vs Belfort fight

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Kazushi Sakuraba already is a legend in Japan, long before he fought Royce. UFC Brazil was a pay off to the Brazilians, that whole event was crap, put Tank vs. Vitor again and Tank would cream him! Vitor is seriously over rated and everyone knows it, so his part of "Brazilian Top Team" who cares! The majority of his fights have been to "B" class fighters, his only respectable wins have been to Vanderlei Silva and Heath Herring. Yet Chuck Liddell has fought manily "A" class fighters like Kevin Randelman, Guy Mezger, Murilo Bustamante, Amar Suloev, Paul Jones, Vitor Belfort and he beat them all.
Venezolano you are the only guy I know that thinks Vitor would have beat Liddell.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2002 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liddel would kill Vitor if he can keep the fight on their feet. On the ground, it might be a different story for "Vitor Gracie"
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2002 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think so, Vitor has powerfull punches
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are we arguing over Chuck Liddell and Vitor Belfort?
We all know Liddell beat Belfort's @$$ and if their is a re-match, Liddell would beat his @$$ again! Just like he did to Renato Sobral on Friday at UFC 40!
Sorry Venezolano, Vitor Belfort is over-rated and you don't seem to understand this?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's your opinion, mine is different
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2002 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Respect' and 'Ortiz' aren't really two word I would use together.

Ortiz has shown a lack of respect in the past to others. Frank whooped him. But he is the WWF fighter the UFC wants to mainstream the sport.
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