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MASIsshinryu
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Styles: Isshin ryu Karate, Kempo, Aikijujutsu, Shaolin Kung Fu

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:53 pm    Post subject: Shugyo? Reply with quote

Who regularly uses any form of Shugyu, in their training / teaching?

I have been involved in this several times, even on my own, and enjoyed it / learned from it every time.

Just curious.
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Harmony
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I incorporate it in my triaining regimen once a month. I also mix shugyo with a technique of training from 10 pm at night until dawn. I offer shugyo to my students roughy 4 times a year. Some however get together with me for occasional private sessions. In my humble opinion no training system is complete without it. Glad to hear from someone else who does it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We do shugyo at the end of the year and last time, we did somewhere around like 9000+ techniques. It's just a few hours and you just keep going, and everybody kind gets in an oval shape and takes turns counting
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MASIsshinryu
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those that do utilize Shugyu, how long do you usually allot for this?

When doing this on my own, I usually pull 3+ sticks of incense (a brand/product that burns for roughly 2 hours per stick), depending on how my training and work has been in the weeks leading up to this, then time myself by burning them sequentially while I train.

Nice ambiance, too.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's cool, although I doubt my parents will let me burn inscense
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also use your alarm clock, a timer on a VCR or television.. etc. Set a goal, and find a method of keeping to that timing, so that you are not preoccupied with the "How much longer can I do this?" thoughts. Make yourself push through until the end.

I also came up with a set of laminated cards, which I sometimes work through. Each card has a Kata, set of Kihon, series/combination or memorization challenge listed on it. The kata and kihon cards are also duplicated with some specifying "for Technque," "for speed," or "for Tension" on some of them. When I use these, I shuffle them up (there's 72 of them) so that I do not get to mentally prepare for the next challenge ahead of time, then allow myself only about 30-seconds between each one, for rest.

For Shugyu, I have gone through the deck a pre-set number of times, shuffling each time it is completed. This way, the goal is completion of task, regardless of time required.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We put it together with our winter training - turn the heat off in the dojo the night before and leave a window open, then dojo opens at 5:30 and train to 6:30 shugyo style for one week. Every day for one week, ending with an hour on a local beach, during daylight and a "meditation' under a nearby waterfall!

I can't spell the noises people make just thinking about it,
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