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kle1n
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Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Location: Cologne, Germany
Styles: Wing Chun, Jeet Kune Do
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 Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 10:57 am Post subject: sparring in win chung |
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does win chung have sparring?
what is chi sau?
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Ti
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| chi sau = sticky hands |
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Drunken Monkey
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chi sau is a training method. think of it as a little game you play with your partner. both arms are in contact and you are both trying to find or make an opening through which you can attack. it can be done fast or slow and as heavy or as light s you like.
however you do it has its own benefits.
some people have described it as the testing ground for your techniques because it is a safe arena in which you can make mistakes.
the idea of chi sau is that you learn to feel how any given force is coming towards you after the initial contact and because of the countless hours of chi sau you have already done, somewhere in your head is a way of neutralising the threat.
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Drunken Monkey
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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and yes, we spar.
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sansoouser
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Styles: san soo, judo,
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I do San Soo and you cannot spar in that the techniques are far to dangerous but we do practise blocking or diverting full force punches and kicks but do not apply the techniques full force just full speed, do you spar in wing chun full force?
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Drunken Monkey
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we spar with what ever force we want to. we kind of don't use some moves that are considered last resort moves. these include the famous biu gee to eys, throat, kidney, elbows to head etc but we do train for them ayou probably do on the bag and we learn where we can use them on the dummy+free form training.
most of the time, when we get through the defences, which will require the use of quite a bit of force sometimes, it is enough to just put you hand up against his face. enough to let him know that you have "hit" him. the actual training of the strikes occurs on the wall bag, hanging bag and finger jab pad.
one thing that beginners in wing chun do is use too much force to overcome faults in their technique. in this case we usually pair him up with a more experienced guy/gal and just have them defend all day. that way eventually the newbie will learn that too much force will just tire you out. eventually he will learn that you only use as much force as you need to.
as for practise, we also train in loose techniques a lot. for example, tan sau+strike is the most basic one but there are so many variations of situations that everytime you do one it will never be the same as the last. what this means is that sometimes we just spend the day going backwards and forwards doing this changing the variables (strength, speed, step-in, step-in speed, from side etc etc)
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