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Dijita
Green Belt
Joined: 23 Feb 2004
Posts: 429
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Styles: Kyokushin
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| ..that doesn't hurt that bad. I doubt one shot would disable your opponent, unless he is a huge whimp. Or maybe I'm just really tough |
I don't think it will completely disable your opponent... however it is very effective if you hit the right part of the bicep. Even a weak strike can make your arm kind of numb. All I'm saying is that if you do this a couple of times, theres a better chance of the person lowering their guard allowing you to kick the head.
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| Try getting a partner, and lightly roundhouse the outside of their leg half way between the hip and the knee. Great fun. Abit like that? |
We do A LOT of roundhouse kicks to this area in class, hard sometimes too. You can take quiet a bit of strikes to the leg before it starts to feel "deaden". It's one of our more common kicks used in class and tourneys. I'll admit though, the inside of your leg is quiet a lot more sensitive to kicks than the outside.
So what I'm saying is that it seems that the centre of your bicep is a very sensitive area on most people. |
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shotochem
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 29 Dec 2001
Posts: 901
Location: New York
Styles: Shotokan, Kempo, BJJ, Baby-Do-Jitsu
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| ..that doesn't hurt that bad. I doubt one shot would disable your opponent, unless he is a huge whimp. Or maybe I'm just really tough |
I don't think it will completely disable your opponent... however it is very effective if you hit the right part of the bicep. Even a weak strike can make your arm kind of numb. All I'm saying is that if you do this a couple of times, theres a better chance of the person lowering their guard allowing you to kick the head. |
Believe me if you hit the right spot on the bicep the arm will go numb!!!
I use a knife hand block to the bicep regularly on a young overly tetesteroned brown belt that needs to learn the meaning of the term "controlled" contact. 
It really slows him down, after a couple of min. he just don't want to punch anymore. 
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Rich_2k3
Red Belt
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
Posts: 778
Location: United Kingdom, Leicestershire
Styles: Trodai Karate
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:29 am Post subject: |
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I think I'll give it a try in 2nights sparring.
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cross
Black Belt
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 1904
Location: Australia
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| Put a knife in your hand and try again |
There are much better things to do with a knife. |
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JerryLove
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 1274
Location: Tampa, FL, US
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| There are much better things to do with a knife. |
mmmm carved ham 
If you've got a knife, touch anything and everything you can with it; that's what it's good at. If you are inside the middle upper arm (the bicept area) there is a loveley artery. Lower it's inside the elbow, and higher in the armpit.
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aefibird
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2003
Posts: 4416
Location: UK
Styles: Past and present: 2 styles of Karate, TKD, Aikido, Wing Chun, some Tai Chi
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Attacking the bicep is a good technique if you can hit it right! It really makes your opponents arm numb and can give you that bit of an extra advantage to 'get in there'.
We usually attack with knife hand strike, but hammer fist also works pretty well.
It's a handy move to pull off for comps.
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SevenStar
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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| I'm with jerry - use it with a knife in your hand. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother. In the street, I want him down as fast as possible... don't have time for trying to hit the bicep. In a tournament, you have gloves. Also, punches can come pretty fast... you're focusing on a rather small area. |
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benkendrick
Yellow Belt
Joined: 01 Apr 2004
Posts: 64
Location: Northern Alabama
Styles: Okuno-Ryu Karate, MDK Tang Soo Do, Sohng Ahm TKD, Nippon Shorinji Kempo, Seibukan Shorin Ryu
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| There are much better things to do with a knife. |
mmmm carved ham
If you've got a knife, touch anything and everything you can with it; that's what it's good at. If you are inside the middle upper arm (the bicept area) there is a loveley artery. Lower it's inside the elbow, and higher in the armpit. |
I had a sempai many years ago who used to love doing the one you mentioned that is on the lower part of the bicep inside the elbow. However he did it in combination with a spot just above the wrist on the outside. It looked like he was simply slapping both spots simultaneously. (though the bicep point was actually a knife-hand). Believe me it always hurt like hell. (I was one of his favorite uke's)
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JerryLove
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 1274
Location: Tampa, FL, US
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| had a sempai many years ago who used to love doing the one you mentioned that is on the lower part of the bicep inside the elbow. However he did it in combination with a spot just above the wrist on the outside. |
Those are points along the same meridian (that one extends up to yor jaw). If he did it right it shouldn't have hurt, it should have made you dizzy and disoriented.
I have no clue if I can pull that off in a fight, but with a willing partner, it's a nead demo of a pressure-point knockout.
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Mc. Steve
Orange Belt
Joined: 15 Mar 2004
Posts: 121
Location: Bristol, UK
Styles: Tang Soo Do
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Sorry for slow response, but I said lightly coz I don't think it's a good idea for peeps to straight out wack it out of eachothers legs. This came from my limited experience, so you can just ignore it or whatever.
As to knifehand stuff, theres this spot on the thumb-side of the arm afew inches from the hand, which made my arm deaden abit.
I'de be willing but...ummm... I live in England! yeessss. that will do.
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