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Treebranch
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 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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No, I would advise everyone to keep up their strength and flexibility as long as they possibly can, but in the end you can always fall back on your knowledge. The moral is don't rely on your strength all the time because there will always be someone bigger and stronger than you and your tactics and know how will save you.
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CPU
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my guess is that it depends on what your trying to do, if your trying to score points in a tornament then your speed and control is the most important, if your trying to get a knockout at a kickboxing tornament then you want to focus more on power and breaking. that just my way of thinking bout it. 
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Treebranch
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Well that's exactly my point. A Kickboxer's career is short lived.
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JerryLove
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| if your trying to get a knockout at a kickboxing tornament then you want to focus more on power and breaking. that just my way of thinking bout it. |
So the most powerful boxer always wins because he is more powerful? This must be why Tyson never lost... oh wait, he did to someone with a more effective strategy.
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Warp Spider
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| if your trying to get a knockout at a kickboxing tornament then you want to focus more on power and breaking. that just my way of thinking bout it. |
So the most powerful boxer always wins because he is more powerful? This must be why Tyson never lost... oh wait, he did to someone with a more effective strategy. |
Well, boxing isn't all about the knockout. The more common way to win is points, which suggests that better technique would be better in boxing.
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JerryLove
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And yet it was by knockout that Tyson was typically winning (IIRC); so I cannot agree with you here.
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Warp Spider
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Well, yes, you CAN win by knockout, but he wasn't beaten by knockout very often, the times he was beat I believe it was by points. (as far as I recall)
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JerryLove
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Ahh. I understand where my point missed its mark. Tyson is our poster-child here for strength over tactics. His strategy was to blitz (come in hard and fast). When he won, he won by knockout. When smarter fighters came up against him, their tactical advantage defeated his strength advantage.
True, they often won point-victories.. but they also clearly won the fight; and that is what we are interested in, is it not?
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Warp Spider
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose so.
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Drunken Monkey
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hehe...
i think that is the closest that we will ever get warp spider to admit defeat...
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