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Ai Hate
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've just began training in martial arts for around 4 months. i'm studying gojuryu karate and have never done anything before. so i really want to hear from the people around here what's the heart of the gojuryu karate?
i've learnt from some of the seniors that gojuryu mainly focuses around controling your breath in corresponding with your muscle. gojuryu katas such as sanchin and tensho really focuses on this principle. it's called "ibuki" if i remember
my sensei said that, for example, in shotokan, there's no stuff like this (muscle control and breathing)?
in short, what's the key to understanding (if not mastering) the heart of gojuryu karate?
some one enlighten me

ps. since this is my first official post, i'd just like to say "hello"
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ai Hate

First, welcome to the boards.

However, we do pratice this in Shotokan karate. We do not have the katas sanchin and tensho, but we do have a tension stance and tension kata, Hangetsu (which I believe is derived from Sanchin).

Breathing and muscle control is very VERY important is all forms of karate.

Hope this helps, and I'm sure we can discuss more of this further with the other members on the board.



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not Gojuryu martial artist - but I can tell you what I 'think' I know :


'Go' meaning hard or positive and 'ju' meaning soft of negative, goju ryu is i think meant to be a perfect harmony and balance of both hard and soft.

Another characteristic is meant to be ibuki, this I found on a website :

Another is Ibuki ('Ikibuki' - YO & IN), the famous breathing techniques which have been developed in a way to place the mind and body in harmony, uniting them for a more efficient person, and stimulating the bodies internal organs bringing you to a total state of awareness. Imagine with every block you inhale and with every strike you exhale. This would be soft to hard. Reverse the order of breathing and call it hard to soft. There are many other principles of application for Ikibuki and most synchronize breathing with body movement.


There is much more information @ this link

http://gojuryu.net/toc.htm

Hope this helps!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

p.s Hello!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm goju so we'll chat. yes there is strong emphasis on your muscle control and breathing. That way you can focus your energy when you go to strike. There is also a large emphasis on kata. there are real life situations that have moves that can be applied in a fight. there is also an emphasis on improv. remeber that move patterns are not etched in stone and you need to be able to make use of your surroundings and attacker.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am into a Shotokan derivative, but I know many Goju students and I know all of the Kata. Its a wonderful school!!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2002-04-08 12:53, Joecooke007 wrote:
That way you can focus your energy when you go to strike
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remeber that move patterns are not etched in stone and you need to be able to make use of your surroundings and attacker.

hmm.. yes yes.. that's what i was taught too. when performing any kata, even the simplest taikyoku, don't just do it, you have to feel it. it's like you have to make up imaginary components, and fight with them. that way, training the kata would prove the most effective..
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the Taikyokyu katas are done by students in many different "styles" of karate. The foundations are very similar in most of the Japanese/Okinawan arts.
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