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UFC 60?
Gracie
36%
 36%  [ 11 ]
Hughes
63%
 63%  [ 19 ]
Total Votes : 30

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BLueDevil
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im picking Gracie on this one, He has been teaching BJJ for years before Matt even heard about UFC so im gonna have to go with experience in this fight because ability is something both fighters have. I just think Matt has shown to be submitted easily a few times, I think he would want to GnP Gracie but Ken Shamrock put him through more than 30 mins of punishment and Gracie never gave up due to strikes. He has also only lost a few times and none of which where in the UFC...

I guess we'll see! Good luck to both
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BLueDevil
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One last thing, I think alot of people are forgetting the Gracies have been doing Vale Tudo fights long before th UFC was around
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a lot of respect for the Gracie's, but Matt Hughes is amazing, and I think that he will end up winning, as long as he is smart enough to keep it standing, IMO. I've seen the same sentiment on here already, and agree whole heartedly.
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Son Goku the monkeyking
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think hughes will win becasuse gracia has not faought in a long time and he will have naturally got rusty, and Hughes has faught more people, more recently so he will also have more recent exprience to gracia, plus his millitech fighting system is more mixture than gracias, families Brazillian Ju-Jutsu. i am rootin 4 hughes all the waY own this one.

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gracie is going to loose. gracie is good at ju jitsu and all that, but times have changed, and know everyone knows standup and ground fighting. Hughes is prolly gonna get a ko on him or a rear naked choke. on the ufc59, i like tito and forrest, but i think that was bull. i think forrest threw tito a good beating, but eh, theres not much you can do about it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hughes may get a ko but there is no way he's getting the rnc
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want Gracie to win, but I think Matt Hughes has a better chance. He's younger and has a better record. Hard to say. Gracie has got the size advantage.
We'll see.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Goku the monkeyking wrote:
i think hughes will win becasuse gracia has not faought in a long time and he will have naturally got rusty, and Hughes has faught more people, more recently so he will also have more recent exprience to gracia, plus his millitech fighting system is more mixture than gracias, families Brazillian Ju-Jutsu. i am rootin 4 hughes all the waY own this one.

PEACE


Sorry, but you are mistaken Royce Gracie has been fighting consistently, since before the UFC, he just hasn't always fought in America. From my understanding he has been fighting in Japan for nearly a decade. And never count out skill, or pure dumb luck for that matter.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and what a beautiful fight it was. Complete dominance by matt hughes. Gracie did show how tough he was, he had a poker face the whole time he was in the arm bar. I also noticed that even though he was being placed in the arm bar he was working on trying to get in the full guard while only in the half guard at the time....apparently the pain was not an issue, great show of will power on his part. Hats off to matt hughes, that was very impressive, a fight he will not quickly forget, nor will any competitors and martial artists around the world for quite some time.
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Sohan
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gracie's age was certainly an issue, but it is obvious that the rest of the world has caught up with him. Hughes could certainly have beaten Royce up much worse than he did, but he showed a great amount of respect for his opponent in getting the job done quickly and efficiently. Youth, strength, and a more well-rounded skill set were what won this fight.

In the post-fight comments, he made it clear that Royce shouldn't have taken the fight. I was surprised to hear Royce not rule out a return to the octagon, which I think would be a mistake. He should retire now, and not tarnish his legacy with a string of embarrassing losses like he received last night.

BTW, the fight is available on youtube.com for anyone who cares to view it.

With respect,

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