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White Warlock
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What do you think?
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47MartialMan
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Joined: 27 Aug 2004
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Styles: Small Variety....."Spice of Life"
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| Just a little side humor. Sorry if you didnt like it. |
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AngelaG
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Joined: 24 Jul 2004
Posts: 865
Location: Devon, UK
Styles: Shotokan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, but not many schools, i.e. McDojos, want to "expell" their client-er student |
I don't know about that. It's a question of number crunching. Anyone can see that it is better for business to expel one unruly student, than to let him stay and have 5 good students leave. As it is traditionally considered that McDojos are all about the money I would suggest that they have no problems about booting unruly students. I would say it's more the traditional dedicated Sensei that would not want to give up on that person and would keep find out why they are misbehaving and try to work with them.
I also suspect you get more unruly children in McDojos because there is usually a higher student to teacher ratio. This means that the Instructor has less time to spend on each student, and the ones not being paid attention to will get bored and fidgety.
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47MartialMan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| That is a good point. However, I have a friend whom has a McDojo, and he tolerates a lot of unruly students. Some of which whose parents have lots of $$$. Not to mention social status. |
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scottnshelly
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Joined: 10 Sep 2004
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Location: Ardmore, Oklahoma
Styles: My Style
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| 47MartialMan wrote: |
| I like the "ticket" idea also. But what happens if you keep giving a "ticket" not to come to class without a parent signature? |
well, the parents wanted thier kids in the class for whatever reason. if their kid got a letter, or in this case a ticket, informing them that thier kid was unruly in class and won't be allowed back until they sign this ticket, then the parent disciplines the kid and sends them back. they paid for the month, so they would just be out that much money if thier kid got expelled. expulsion was never the goal though. we knew that would get the parents involved.
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| I agree with Shorinryu Sensei on this, if they do it to much they are out, I dont have time for it and the students who are there to really train dont have time for it. And one student isnt going to wreck it for everyone. |
exactley, expulsion was never our goal, but if it had to be done to improve the rest of the class...
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| I would say it's more the traditional dedicated Sensei that would not want to give up on that person and would keep find out why they are misbehaving and try to work with them. |
good point. i don't think anyone really wants to expell, or even punish, a student. |
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47MartialMan
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Aug 2004
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Styles: Small Variety....."Spice of Life"
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, I had a whole class schedule for a group of unruly, or "problem" kids. Talk about needing and improving mental strength. |
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RavenX
White Belt
Joined: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 18
Location: Rhode Island
Styles: Sullivan's Kenpo Jiujitsu
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A problem that i'm having is when I have a group of 18 whitebelts, and the the other instructer in the class has about 10 - 12 higher ranking students. I'm given approximately 15 minutes to get what I need to do done and over with. So if I have a lot of material to cover I don't have time to be giving verbal warnings, or explainign that what trhey do is wrong, or even having them bow out. For me, pushups is easier to deal with, but I like to try to think of other ways of teaching them discipline. I don't advocate the use of pushups as being the best way to do it, but sometimes there just isn't any other way when I have a group of 10 - 12 people...any suggestions anyone?
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47MartialMan
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| Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I am confused about the 15 minutes |
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scottnshelly
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i'm also confused about only having 15 minutes.
do you only teach each color belt at different times? seems like a waste.
please elaborate RavenX |
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senna_trem
Green Belt
Joined: 27 Nov 2004
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Location: British Columbia
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| Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Unruly students like they are ignoring or challenging their sensei? Or just unfocused little kids?
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