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YODA
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2002 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted this on the TKD forum - and Sai asked me to postit here....

In Doce Pares Eskrima our forms are called "Sayaw". There are 17 of them and include forms for...

Single stick
Single sword
Double stick
Sword & dagger
Staff
Long sword (two handed)

--- So waddya wanna know?



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2002 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The weapons forms I have so far:

Staff
Staff sparring
Short stick
Double short stick
Sword
Reverse Sword

I have yet ahead of me:

Double fan
Double short sword
Spear

There's probably more, but I haven't seen them practiced, so I'm not sure what they are.

[ This Message was edited by: KSN Doug on 2002-02-14 06:20 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2002 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kobudo kata that i am currently working on right now are ,
Tenru no kun (bo)
tokamine no kun
ryu be bo
tsuriken haku no sai
jushi no tonfa
hama higa no tonfa
kokoba no tonfa
hama higa no kama
tiara sho (nunchaku)
These are Okinawan and Japanese kobudo kata .
I also ned to work on them much more then i curently do .


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2002 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Matayoshi Okinawan Kobudo, I practise the following kata:

Shu-shi-no-kon
Cho-un-no-kon
Tsu-ken-no-kon

Ni-cho zai
San-cho-zai

Tsun Kuwa kata ichi
Tsun Kuwa kata ni (aint seen it)

Ko-bu nunchaku ichi
ko-bu nunchaku ni (aint seen it)
Nunchaku kata

Ko-bu ni-cho gama

Iyeku kata

Thats all up to black belt, I think

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2002 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish our forms had cool names - our first three are called forms 1,2 and errr....3. Do you see a pattern emerging?

Guess what the 6th one's called



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YODA

Dont let the japanese/okinawan names fool you - they are just basic names, meaning nothing spectacular!! LOL

Ni-cho-zai - "form with two sai"
San-cho-zai - "form with three sai"

Tsu-ken-no-kon - Tsuken is a place

I'm sure you can work the rest out.

I just wish I could do something dynamic like " Destroying the Enemy Major" not "Two kama kata"!!!!

Oh well....guess thats the way it has to be!! LOL


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting the translations of the kobudo kata we do are as follows .
tokamine (is the name of the person who ws a master fo the bo )
ryu be (style of bo )
tsuriken haku no sai ( crains fist swans way )
jushi no tonfa (14 centery)
hama higa (name of palce in okinawa )
kokuba (named ofter Kokuba Kosei "Kunib" )
Tiara sho (created by Shinken Tiara)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tobias...three sai???

How do you hold the third one, your toes. I didn't realize you could use more than two.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug

In fact, you hold the sai with your tongue!!!! LOL.

but seriously....

The third sai is held behind the belt. When one of the sai is thrown, you quickly remove the sai from behind the belt and use it.

In the kata "San-cho-zai" you start with three zai, but only end the kata with one - two have been thrown into the floor.

Hope this helps

Tobias

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhhh, or maybe duhhhhh.

Not being from a Japanese art, I had forgotten you could throw them. Thanks.
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