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Groinstrike
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Posts: 923
Location: Richland County
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Krav Maga, Jeet Kune Do, BJJ M
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| Agreed, JKD should be a mindset rather than a style. For something to be a style it has to have set techniques and perameters. Lee cared not for these things. |
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brickshooter
Green Belt
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
Posts: 443
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I think that JKD was designed to be a concept. It was intended to be Mix Martial Arts.
Techniques taught were supposed to only create a base to which practicioners would continuously add techniques from other styles depending on their individual needs.
I think Bruce even shut down his schools several times when he was frustrated that people tend to be a little stupid and sheepish, refusing to think for themselves. |
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Lazy Scholar
Yellow Belt
Joined: 23 Sep 2003
Posts: 98
Location: Southern Cal
Styles: did wushu / aikido , doing JKD
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:40 am Post subject: |
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True refinement seeks simplicity
== Bruce Lee (at least, it's attributed to him)
accumulation leads to ornamentation.
accumulation is only half way cultivation.
(From the Tao of JKD)
Daily Decrease.
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Jay
Black Belt
Joined: 20 May 2005
Posts: 1190
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Its both a style and a mindset. The philosophy was essentially Bruce Lee's marketing tool to promote himself at a time where karate dominated. A lot of the stuff he talked about he actually plagiarised from others especially in the Tao, not so much in the newer commentaries book.
This has forever been an argument, but what I do know is that there were tools just like any other art. Punches, Kicks etc. He taught everyone differently.
For me I no longer care if what I do is JKD, I actually study more than JKD. Its the idea of what your doing rather than the name as such.
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Lazy Scholar
Yellow Belt
Joined: 23 Sep 2003
Posts: 98
Location: Southern Cal
Styles: did wushu / aikido , doing JKD
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Jay wrote: |
Its both a style and a mindset. The philosophy was essentially Bruce Lee's marketing tool to promote himself at a time where karate dominated. A lot of the stuff he talked about he actually plagiarised from others especially in the Tao, not so much in the newer commentaries book.
This has forever been an argument, but what I do know is that there were tools just like any other art. Punches, Kicks etc. He taught everyone differently.
For me I no longer care if what I do is JKD, I actually study more than JKD. Its the idea of what your doing rather than the name as such. |
Thank you! I don't know if you've done JKD yourself, at one point. But I'm taking on a similar mindset.
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Jay
Black Belt
Joined: 20 May 2005
Posts: 1190
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| Jay wrote: |
Its both a style and a mindset. The philosophy was essentially Bruce Lee's marketing tool to promote himself at a time where karate dominated. A lot of the stuff he talked about he actually plagiarised from others especially in the Tao, not so much in the newer commentaries book.
This has forever been an argument, but what I do know is that there were tools just like any other art. Punches, Kicks etc. He taught everyone differently.
For me I no longer care if what I do is JKD, I actually study more than JKD. Its the idea of what your doing rather than the name as such. |
Thank you! I don't know if you've done JKD yourself, at one point. But I'm taking on a similar mindset. |
I do indeed 
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BladeSmartNY
Yellow Belt
Joined: 22 Apr 2011
Posts: 26
Location: NYC
Styles: Kali, JKD
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JKD has been so watered down by poor instructors that nobody here can even explain it.
JKD is Bruce Lee's derivation of Wing Chun trapping. He took specific techniques that could be combined with boxing to trap your opponent. The key principle is that you keep your opponent backing up with your attacks.
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Athena
Orange Belt
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Posts: 141
Styles: Tai chi, and my own strange mix
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| Every time someone calls JKD a style, Bruce turns over. |
Indeed XD
To say that it is a style is to say that it has specific rules and forms that absolutely must be adhered to- but that's exactly what he was trying to be rid of.
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Everytime someone calls JKD a style, Bruce turns over.
Why do I love Bruce Lee? Not because he was an awesome martial artist- but because his train of thought overlapped with mine even before I knew about him.
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tsd1592
Yellow Belt
Joined: 25 Apr 2011
Posts: 35
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| The way of the intercepting fist. The name explanes its self. Also to many people argue about the style. When he said my style is no style. He wanted us to take what works for us and get rid of what does not. No set movement punches or kicks. He wanted us to find are own way. |
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Jay
Black Belt
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Posts: 1190
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The things is with JKD is that you can't define it as such. In order to understand where Bruce was coming from you need to look into Taoism, Zen and Krishnamurti. Most people approach it with a western mindset as in seeing things in black and white.
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