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shotochem
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Location: New York
Styles: Shotokan, Kempo, BJJ, Baby-Do-Jitsu
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 Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 11:41 am Post subject: Would Aikido go well with Shotokan??? |
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The more I learn the more I want to learn in MA. I am considering expanding my MA to Aikido in addition to Shotokan. Would they complement each other? My other choice is Aki-jujitsu.
What do you think???? 
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Kensai
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Well, I cant speak for Aikijujutsu.
As for Aikido, I think it would go very well. For a number of reasons.
One Shotokan is largely offensive and Aikido is largely defencive.
Shotokan is very block orintated and Aikido is very evasively orintated.
Aikido has powerful striking techniques and amazing biomechanics that would help you to understand Shotokan even better.
Aikido would also help you to see the various locks and throws hidden in the Shotokan Kata.
Just IMHO ofcourse.
Having done Shotokan and doing Aikido, I think it would mix well, just make sure that you know what your "base" art is. 
If you have any questions about Aikido, please dont hesitate to ask. Its my mission to get you all to come under the wonderful power of Aikido. 
I am sure that Kyle-San can tell you more of the benefits of Aiki-jujutsu. If not go to: http://www.e-budo.com/vbulletin/index.php?s=1149731aac5e7b1a1fc3c99af47009c0
There is a Aikijutsu section there where you could ask any questions about the style. |
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Kyle-san
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Location: Brandon, Manitoba
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Yes, I am here to spout the wonders of Aiki Jujutsu.
Anyway, the style of Aiki Jujutsu that I studied was a hybrid, so I can't give you a clear indication of what the pure form would be like. However, what I trained in was very complete and went quite well with my Shotokan Karate training. As Kensai has already pointed out the various differences, I don't need to. However, it's because they're so opposite that I'd say Aikido and Shotokan wouldn't work so well as a blend.
The more offensive nature of Aiki Jujutsu might blend better, but it all depends on your personality. Personally, I'd check out both the Aikido and Aiki Jujutsu dojos and see which one you'd rather do. Either way you can't go wrong.
Another option, if you can find it, is Ketto Ryu Jujutsu which has many blocks, kicks and strikes that are similar to Shotokan and you still get the joint manipulation of Aiki Jujutsu and Aikido.
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Insanity
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Location: Melbourne
Styles: Iwama-Ryu Aikido
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I reckon aikido would be mad with your shotokan, all those pins and throws would be usefull indeed. But i reckon you should also do Judo, just so you would be more all-roudned.
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Karateka_latino
Black Belt
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Location: Panama city, Panama
Styles: Goju-Ryu Karate do; Kung Fu.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2003 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| You know, i feel the same.. Judo will go better with your Shotokan than Aikido... but why not giving a shot.. maybe blend all 3 is even better. lol Many people have done it and with good results. |
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Kensai
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2003 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| Perhaps Judo would be better in that it is more physical and not so "ki" based. But there are some Aikido styles out there that are very physical indeed. But its what works for you at the end of the day. |
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shotochem
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Location: New York
Styles: Shotokan, Kempo, BJJ, Baby-Do-Jitsu
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Thanks for the opinions everyone. I know of an exellent Aiki teacher. Ive observed a few of his classes and I like what he is teaching. The concern I have is that they are very physical with many locks throws and strikes. The hard striking is similar to what I learn in Shotokan, Im looking for something to flow a little more and learn a little more finesse and body movement to incorparate into my MA. Ive become interested in Sabaki type movements and evasive countering. (the knees are not getting any younger  ) I leaning towards the Aikido side my old sensei used to do Aikido as well as Shotokan and he would throw in a bit
for variety. It was interesting and fun.
Im falling under Kensai's evil spell!!!!! 
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Kyle-san
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2003 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| shotochem wrote: |
| The concern I have is that they are very physical with many locks throws and strikes. |
It seems that way, but generally speaking everything is started at a very slow level (in terms of working with the locks and throws) and works up to that very physical state once everything is flowing smoothly for you.
But, anyway, go with whichever seems best for you.
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Kensai
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2003 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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"Im falling under Kensai's evil spell!!!!!"
MWhahahahahahahaha!
Over time the techniques will flow, just like in Shotokan. It takes alot of time and effort. |
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