bjj for self defense

Martial_Artist · Pre-Black Belt

Thank you Kirves,

Yes, I think we agree on the subject, we just have two differnent way so of expressing it. I didn't forget BJJ's stand-up grappling. I just presented it under the light of needing a better curriculum for a complete self-defense package.

And yes, about any single it can be said it is a single method of thought, that, too, was my point. When asked about BJJ alone being effective for self-defense I assumed what the question wanted to know was pertaining to being able to defend your life when needed. And, IMO, BJJ alone cannot do that sufficiently. Neither can any one other art. And I think we both see this. I do apologize if I came off ignorant, I sometimes express ideas without fully explaining the reasoning behind those ideas. I like to let the reader gather what they can.

I look forward to further sharing knowledge pertaining to the martial arts.

Thanks.

MA.
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JohnnyS · Green Belt

Martial_artist,
I understand where you're coming from, and agree that added with another striking art, BJJ will be more effective. However, I disagree that by itself BJJ is not an effective art for self-defence. The Gracies have used BJJ in fights in Brazil for many years. If there was such a big hole because of the lack of striking don't you think they would have changed the art?

I have used pure grappling when working as a bouncer to win fights, and I know of other people using pure BJJ in fights who have no other martial arts experience, and winning, even against multiple opponents.

Personally I'd rather knock someone out standing, but I know that I can also win using pure grappling, and that BJJ by itself does have a comprehensive self-defense system - as long as you train it.
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JohnnyS · Green Belt

As far as fighting someone bigger, again, I'd much rather take them down and finish them from mount or knee-ride. Most people have no idea what to do on the ground and a bigger guy on his back doesn't have leverage or the power to do any damage from this position, whereas standing he's a real danger, evn if he knows nothing.
Regarding mobility from here, knee-ride (or knee-on-belly) is a perfect half-way position. It allows you to choke, armbar or strike your opponent and still retain mobility.
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TJS · Black Belt

I do agree that BJJ gives you one of the best chances against a larger/stronger opponet..

Martial_Artist · Pre-Black Belt

JohnnyS,

At least we can agree to disagree civily and not get childish about it. I appreciate your insight and comments. I still hold to my original statement, but am appreiciative of yours.

MA.
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Imagination is more important than knowledge.
Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." Einstein

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