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Natural
Blue Belt
Joined: 25 Jan 2004
Posts: 287
Location: Purley,Surrey,England
Styles: Renzokenkai-do, Taikyoku-ken
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 Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:43 am Post subject: Hi, this is to 6th kyu kyu to 1st dan. |
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How many average citizen (same height, age, etc) can you defend against hand to hand attackers, am a 7th kyu I can defend myself against one person as me, I can deliverd a davastaing blows nose bleeds etc.
If it really happens they probabely going to punch me head lock so I'll grab their neck and use my kness on their face rapidly to get out and do a judo throw and a hard knukels fully extend punch to the face and nose after that I'll land a death kick with a muay thai elbow strike, if I'had enough space,
Am a senior at my school a big bully did a kick so i'd show him a proper one to the neck, he was about to felt I'll grab his head swinging him across rooms to rooms doors to walls while doing a knee strike, got excluded becuse he use to bully me 3 years ago.
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aefibird
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2003
Posts: 4416
Location: UK
Styles: Past and present: 2 styles of Karate, TKD, Aikido, Wing Chun, some Tai Chi
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Hi, this is to 6th kyu kyu to 1st dan. |
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| How many average citizen (same height, age, etc) can you defend against hand to hand attackers, |
I don't know how many 'average citizens' I can defend myself against. Thankfully, I've never been in a position where I've had to ever use self defence (well, not since I stopped getting into 'fights' at school  ). I would hope that my years of dojo training would help if I ever needed to use Martial Arts in a real street situation. I can hold my own pretty well against the big guys at my dojo (I'm only 5'2"), so that's gotta count for something, but really, you only find out how good your self defence skills are when you have to use them for real and by that point it is too late to make them any better :-/
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Tal
Orange Belt
Joined: 04 Aug 2003
Posts: 167
Location: UK
Styles: shotokan karate, jujitsu, kendo
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Hi, this is to 6th kyu kyu to 1st dan. |
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| Natural wrote: |
| How many average citizen (same height, age, etc) can you defend against hand to hand attackers, |
I think I could take two or three untrained and inexperienced people of my own strength and build.
I was once in a fight with a friend, against two other guys about the same size as me. My friend got beat down pretty quickly, so I effectively had to fight both of them by myself. I got a broken nose, but they left me alone eventually.
I've also been in the unfortunate situation of having four people attacking me while I was on my own. They were about the same size of me, and they kicked my * in no time.
So, I'd say 2 to 3 'average' people is about all I can handle. The thing is, most people who pick fights aren't average people; they usually have some or a lot of street fighting experience. Even 3 'average' people, I think, would be pushing it. If you're being attacked from front and back simultaneously, its very difficult to defend yourself. Its not like in the movies when the baddies attack the hero one at a time.
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I can deliverd a davastaing blows nose bleeds etc. |
Oh man! A nose bleed....truly devastating...
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If it really happens they probabely going to punch me head lock so I'll grab their neck and use my kness on their face rapidly to get out |
If they put a half-decent head lock on you, you won't be able to knee them in the face unless you're very strong.
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after that I'll land a death kick |
Death kick? Can you do fireballs as well?
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equaninimus
Purple Belt
Joined: 31 Dec 2003
Posts: 562
Styles: Seibukan, Shotokan, Wado Ryu
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I'm quite sure I can talk my way out of most confrontations. Does that count?
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tommarker
Black Belt
Joined: 22 Mar 2003
Posts: 1325
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Natural,
I'm not trying to sound mean, but you either need:
1. To read more.
2. Have someone really kick the crap out of you and bring you down a notch.
You sound scrappy and as if you have a lot of strong emotion that helps you in your training. I like enthusiasm, and you sound a lot like I probably did at your rank.
But your world view is, at best, immature. Normal for high school, perhaps, but approaching every confrontation (real or imagined) in your sense will result in someone one day handing you the beating of your lifetime.
After resetting your nose, spitting out a few teeth and some blood, you may realize that are more socially acceptable routes to vent your aggression. Like hurling or rugby 
Trust me.
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equaninimus
Purple Belt
Joined: 31 Dec 2003
Posts: 562
Styles: Seibukan, Shotokan, Wado Ryu
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Some of us consider rugby relaxing! 
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I would like to respond, but I honestly couldn't make any sense out of the question ... so maybe we're unjustly ripping him a new one because we don't understand what he said?
Natural: could you rephrase the question? |
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Ripper
Orange Belt
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Posts: 150
Location: Netherlands
Styles: Shotokan
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Someone here saw too many cartoons!
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Shorinryu Sensei
Black Belt
Joined: 13 Jun 2002
Posts: 2045
Location: Kalispell, Montana
Styles: Shorinryu Matsumura Kenpo (Seito/Orthodox) Karate and Kobudo
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Like most of you I'm sure, I've noticed that all of Naturals posts are written the same way. I'd guess either English isn't his native language, or more likely, he's quite young and hasn't learned proper sentence structure and spelling yet.
Can you tell I'm an ex-teacher? I was tempted to try to correct all of the mistakes and give him a "D"...but refrained.
Oh yeah...in regards to the thread subject, I've successfully defended myself against 3 attackers in a real fight. It wasn't as tough as you'd think because of how they came at me. It could have turned out totally opposite if they had their s**t together.
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ESA-Shotokan
Orange Belt
Joined: 20 Dec 2003
Posts: 201
Location: Bristol, UK
Styles: Shotokan Karate
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"If you can read this - THANK A TEACHER!
If you're reading it in English - THANK A SOLDIER!"
I like that, Shorinryu Sensei
As for beating up groups of people - can't say I am daft enough to get involved in such a situation to often. Whenever the matter has arisen, it is normally sufficient to hurt a couple to be rid of the gang.
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on the post.
