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Knockdown
Orange Belt
Joined: 21 Sep 2002
Posts: 142
Location: MN, USA
Styles: Kyokushin, kickboxing
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 Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: I am a Shotokan Shodan, but im starting kyokushin kai... |
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| j0rge wrote: |
Hi iīve training Shotokan since 1990, since i move to another city i coulndīt keep on trinning because there was no Shotokan Dojos around.
But there where a few of kyokushin Kai Karate , Im trinning that style since then. So here are a few questions:
- Do I have to start all over from white belt?
- Is there a real diference in the techniques? (couldnt se any)
- Is wrong for my original style to change to another?
Thank you...
OSSU.... |
In general ranks from other stylrs will not be transferable toa
Kyokushin Dojo. If you came from one of the offshoots of
Kyokushin, then maybe, or there may be a "probationary" time.
So, obviously, you always keep yoour rank in your root style,
no one is taking that away from you. But you really have no rank
In Kyokushin and you are starting over at 10th Kyu. This is the
way I handle it, and the way my seniors handle it. Due to some
overlap, you may indeed progress faster than a complete novice.
or the subtle and not so subtle) difference may drive you crazy
and actually slow down your progress 
There will be differences. some very minor, and some almost
a whole different beast. Kihon may bear the most similarity.
I think an examle of Forefist Rising Block may be quite similar.
Front stance is more alike than not. but the more you get into
the new style you will see some changes. who knows which is
"right" or "Wrong" but if you are trying to learn a NEW style
to you, then the WHEN IN ROME saying will apply.
Changing from one style to another is a personal choice.
Since you have no Shotokan Dojo in your new area
your options become limited. some options [brainstorming]:
-train on your own all the time practicing what you know.
-make frequent trips to seminars and gatherings
-find training partners to do routines with
-quit training all together
-Open your own Shotokan Dojo
-train with the Kyokushin club once and a while
-fully embrace the (new to you) Kyokushin way.
-move to somewhere there is a Shotokan Doko.
good luck! |
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Knockdown
Orange Belt
Joined: 21 Sep 2002
Posts: 142
Location: MN, USA
Styles: Kyokushin, kickboxing
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| kenpo4life wrote: |
| Actually there are a number of differences. While Oyama did study goju and shotokan, he modified his system quite a bit. In kyokushin, their delivery of the roundhouse kick is different. they also have no pads and full contact sparring from the start. They clinch and knee a lot also. There training methods are very intense. As I have fought in about 75 sabaki/kyokushin style matches, I can give you more details. Feel free to email me at ichibushi@hotmail.com |
Actually by current Kyokushin Competition rules
there is no clinching. Kneeing allowed obviously
but for tournament fighting, NO grabbing. This
may not enforced in the Dojo though.
Shidokan, SeidoKaiKan, etc will still allow it. |
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Knockdown
Orange Belt
Joined: 21 Sep 2002
Posts: 142
Location: MN, USA
Styles: Kyokushin, kickboxing
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Sho-ju wrote: |
| You'll love kyokushin. It's a different style for sure, but many things are similar. In my dojo we are influanced by full contact karate but stick to our shotokan syllabus. I say go for it, even if they make you wear white, it won't be for long. |
thank you for mentioning the Syllabus. this may be
helpful for the original individual asking the question:
http://www.pris.bc.ca/karate/adultsyllabus.htm
Typical Kyokushin Syllabus and the one we follow
in my dojo as well.
Regards, |
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equaninimus
Purple Belt
Joined: 31 Dec 2003
Posts: 562
Styles: Seibukan, Shotokan, Wado Ryu
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Kumite is optional over 35..why should you young whipppersnappers haev all the fun???!!!???
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Knockdown
Orange Belt
Joined: 21 Sep 2002
Posts: 142
Location: MN, USA
Styles: Kyokushin, kickboxing
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| equaninimus wrote: |
Kata is optional over 35..why should you young whipppersnappers haev all the fun???!!!???
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it should not say kata is optional.
the full contact fighting is optional,
for those who are over 35. |
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equaninimus
Purple Belt
Joined: 31 Dec 2003
Posts: 562
Styles: Seibukan, Shotokan, Wado Ryu
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| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Optional..gee sonny..I'll whack you with my cane! 
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Natural
Blue Belt
Joined: 25 Jan 2004
Posts: 287
Location: Purley,Surrey,England
Styles: Renzokenkai-do, Taikyoku-ken
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Goodluck in trainning there, me myself have to even move country so i will be strating in go-ju ryu I herd its fantastic.
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Mink
Yellow Belt
Joined: 11 Feb 2004
Posts: 63
Styles: Kyokushin
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Kumite: 10 - 15 matches (1.5 mins), (kumite is optional for ages over 35).
Have you always done that amount?
At our Kyokushin club the shodan grading does 40 rounds which he has to be dominate for at least half of them.
Even between the same style there are differences.!
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Knockdown
Orange Belt
Joined: 21 Sep 2002
Posts: 142
Location: MN, USA
Styles: Kyokushin, kickboxing
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Mink wrote: |
Kumite: 10 - 15 matches (1.5 mins), (kumite is optional for ages over 35).
Have you always done that amount?
At our Kyokushin club the shodan grading does 40 rounds which he has to be dominate for at least half of them.
Even between the same style there are differences.! |
I joined this group about 4 years ago, and that is the way they do it.
yes, even in the same style there will be significant differences
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