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TURBO7
White Belt
Joined: 31 Aug 2003
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Styles: my style
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| You missed the point entirely TJS. Aikidoka don't need to prove anything to anyone, they don't claim to be the biggest and baddest. Have one of the those guys attack a Grand Master and see what happens. Former Aikido practitioners aren't Masters of it, are they. I say if you survive an attack, you are the winner. Staying alive is more important then winning. Wouldn't you agree? |
Damn, when did competitions become the par for being the "best"... It's very sad to see this trend going here; I'm assuming it's a "western" american thing. In America, everything needs to be faster, stronger, better, bigger, etc...etc...
Go read the Tao D' Ching by LaoTsu; it will show you the way..... |
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JohnnyS
Green Belt
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
Posts: 444
Location: Australia
Styles: BJJ, Shootfighting, TKD, Goju
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Turbo7, what's wrong with competition? Without competition, there is no need to improve or evolve.
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omnifinite
Purple Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2002
Posts: 524
Location: Northern VA
Styles: Hapkido | Kempo | Jujitsu
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Goes back to the whole competitions having rules/false intent/false circumstances/etc argument... which will go on and on and on.
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JohnnyS
Green Belt
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
Posts: 444
Location: Australia
Styles: BJJ, Shootfighting, TKD, Goju
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I don't just mean in a tournament, but in the dojo also. Competition is a stimulus to improve, but if you don't need to improve because you're not being challenged then you won't improve.
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YoungGrasshopper
Yellow Belt
Joined: 04 Apr 2003
Posts: 77
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| I have never seen an example of an Aikido practicioner showing it;s effectiveness against a trained fighter. im not saying it's impossible but i will remain a bit skeptical |
That is exactly how I view it as. |
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goshinman
Blue Belt
Joined: 23 Jul 2003
Posts: 253
Location: pasadena,ca
Styles: hakko densin ryu jujutsu, shuai chiao, catchwrestling, and some judo/sambo
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I'd go with Judo. It will give you more practical moves to use for what you are looking for. Akido generally takes YEARS to learn to use efficently because it's whole budo philosophy is reactive in nature while TJJ and Judo embrace both proactive and reactive techniques. Akido is also VERY heavy on the esoteric side of things. But like treebranch said, given enough time and hard training an Akidoka can be quite deadly.
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SBN Doug
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Joined: 04 Nov 2001
Posts: 3767
Location: Houston, TX
Styles: Kuk Sool Won
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I didn't see this topic soon enough, apparently. I've done a lot of trimming, because only part of the original question is allowed.
I'm going to close it anyway, since we already have a thread comparing and contrasting these two along with JJ.
http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=9618
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