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Krav Maga or Wing Chun for self defense?
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Krav Maga |
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45% |
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Wing Chun |
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55% |
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Anzie
Yellow Belt
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Posts: 79
Location: Oslo, Norway, Europe.
Styles: Shootfigthing
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:21 am Post subject: Krav Maga or Wing Chun? |
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I haven't found other posts equal to this one, so here goes;
What is the differences between these two?
Anyone in your opinions that would be more realistic for modern self defence on the street?
Thanks! _________________ Grappling enthusiast!
Shootfighting as well. |
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Icetuete
Black Belt
Joined: 17 May 2003
Posts: 1025
Location: Germany
Styles: ITF Taekwondo
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Krav Maga is really good, but i dont know too much about Wing Chun so i wont participate in the poll. |
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aznkarateboi
Brown Belt
Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Posts: 627
Styles: shaolin gung fu southern style
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:50 am Post subject: |
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krav maga |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Both are self defense oriented systems.
I would Give the Advantage to KM as far as self defense for a Few reasons.
A) You become profficent In KM quicker than you would in WC. Some may ague but I belive it's pretty widely know KM is a system that is taught very quickly and effectivly.
B)I belive KM would be more likely to work under and Extremly Stressfull situation because It is based on more natural and instinctive movements and reactions.
There are a few other reasons but these are the two main ones are far as self defense is concerned. |
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Drunken Monkey
Black Belt
Joined: 10 Apr 2002
Posts: 3559
Location: bar italia
Styles: white chocolate profiteroles and natas....
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:31 am Post subject: |
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well, how good you get and how quickly it happens really does depend on how seriously you take your training.
at the end of the day if you only turn up to one lesson a week and don't train outside of that single lesson then don't expect to get good in ANY style.
i have seen people "practice" wing chun for years and still not have "good hands". but then i have also seen people who practice for two months who really can defend themselves. _________________ post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are.
"When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." |
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Icetuete
Black Belt
Joined: 17 May 2003
Posts: 1025
Location: Germany
Styles: ITF Taekwondo
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 10:26 am Post subject: |
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at the end of the day if you only turn up to one lesson a week and don't train outside of that single lesson then don't expect to get good in ANY style. |
thats enough to learn the basics, but after yellow belt (or whatever the first test may be) u really should to more.
but its also about training methods and/or instruction. |
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Kirves
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Both rely on aggressive defence. I like KM more because it uses more "standard" techniques, so it is easier to mix with other arts like muay thai, jujutsu, kickboxing, karate, judo, kali and so on. Wing chun has a very distinct style that is hard to mix with many arts. |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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from the ground up wrote: |
well, how good you get and how quickly it happens really does depend on how seriously you take your training.
at the end of the day if you only turn up to one lesson a week and don't train outside of that single lesson then don't expect to get good in ANY style.
i have seen people "practice" wing chun for years and still not have "good hands". but then i have also seen people who practice for two months who really can defend themselves. |
Um...Yes thats True but that dosent have anything to do with the stlyles..What im Saying Is Devoting equal time and effort to the style and all things equal, KM will be picked up alot quicker. |
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Prodigal Son
Orange Belt
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
Posts: 110
Styles: wing chun
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Icetuete wrote: |
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at the end of the day if you only turn up to one lesson a week and don't train outside of that single lesson then don't expect to get good in ANY style. |
thats enough to learn the basics, but after yellow belt (or whatever the first test may be) u really should to more.
but its also about training methods and/or instruction. |
Enough to learn the basics ? You are having a laugh.
Unless you WANT to train all the time, you are fooling yourself if you think you are going to learn anything but false confidence. Take up knitting or something less dangerous.
I am shocked at what some on this forum consider 'training'. Martial arts can not be learned in a three hour McDojo class once a week with no outside practice. And if your teacher can't spot such appaling lethargy in his students (and stick a foot up their as ses), then he's just as hopelessly McDojo as the student.
And if you can gain a 'belt' (whatever one of those may be worth) by training once a week, then surely you must look to the standards set by your martial art. Jeez - I was on 'probation' for a year with my teacher...
What a bunch of old ladies.
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P.S. KM vs WC ? Who knows. None of you - unless you do both arts. This debate is conjecture based on small knowledge, anecdotal evidence and misunderstanding. So there. *flips the bird* _________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim. Sifu Wong. |
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Drunken Monkey
Black Belt
Joined: 10 Apr 2002
Posts: 3559
Location: bar italia
Styles: white chocolate profiteroles and natas....
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:19 am Post subject: |
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oooh, a bit touchy today.
c'mon, you must understand tht a lot of the posters here are teens who want to say in some round about way that their art is the best and that they can whip your butt even though they've only learnt from books/websites/videos.
all we can do is tell them that there is more to martial arts than just copying the forms. _________________ post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are.
"When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." |
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