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Angus
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2001 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you think about this as an essential part of martial arts training? Some styles really don't teach it in any significant amount.

I think it is essential to know some medical and biological information about the human body as it helps u indicate vital strking and tripping points... eg: this bone locks here, twisting this other bone into place, thus throwing the opponant head over *...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2001 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't get taught enough about that :/
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2001 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I train about body mechanics as much as possible. Not so much vital striking points, but leverage points. It really helps when you are trying to get a person off-balance or to throw them. It is a crucial thing to know if you want to be successful at fighting.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2001 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely. I have found that i can just make up my own locking techniques and stuff cos i know what happens if something is twisted this way or that way... I didn't do BJJ for very long so i've had to learn from people who have done more than me. It's a fun thing to know if u've got a pain in the * brother too!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2001 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sensei doesn't really teach that much, but it has got me interested. Now I'm upset. I really think that kind of knowledge could be extremely useful. 'Knowing' why something works is ultimately superiour to just accepting it. As Angus says, I imagine it would allow you to more easily come up with your own holds and locks...
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Angus
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2001 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There really is no end to its usefulness... I just thought about it cos i just saw Best of the Best 4, and there was a scene right at the end where Phil Rhee is practicing these locks and throws on these dudes...

The stick fighting scene was phenomenal!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2001 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stick fighting in Best of the Best 4 is Kali. Pretty awesome huh?
Anyway, to learn why something works is awesome, with the learning of the concepts, the techniques themselves become easier to do and you will learn more technique because the concept is already there. I teach concepts first, then technique. There are many moves which I have made up that work, just to find out that someone else already made up the move, but still it shows how important concept is.

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Angus
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2001 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, i just find it amazing that there are schools out there (professional schools, not McDojo's) that don't teach body mechanics and concepts of defense etc..... Sure some people do it for the art, but still, u should learn to defend yourself adequately while participating in the artistic side of it...

I wish there was a place to do Kali here!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2001 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my kobudo class teaches some of it, not enough. it is very useful. i like flow saparing, and using a lock to take the other guys escrima.


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