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Nevinyrral
Blue Belt


Joined: 16 Jul 2010
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Location: Poland
Styles: Karate
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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:51 am Post subject: Bruce Lee? |
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I wanted to know what everyone think about Bruce.
He was great martial artist, but was he a great fighter.
Lots of people think he would wipe the floor with other martial artists.
But is there even some proof of his fighting abilities?
What are your thoughts about that? _________________ A style is just a name. |
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Alan Armstrong
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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce Lee is the single most influential person on my martial art journey, starting from this in 1973
https://youtu.be/zBsP8ch_-Tg |
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Alan Armstrong
Black Belt

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sensei8
KF Sensei


Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16104
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Opinions about Bruce Lee about his fighting abilities are all over the map. We can measure all we want, and discern even more, however, whether his fighting skills meet our expectations truly don't hold water.
"I'm not in this world to meet your expectations, and you're not in this world to meet my expectations." ~ Bruce Lee
Many renown MA have stated their opinions about Bruce and his fighting abilities, and it seems the their opinions in this regard are highly unanimously respectful to Bruce's fighting abilities.
The discerned eye can tell as to what one possess in this concern through many trained observations, and in that, the summation of 'why' is to the summation of 'because', whereas, I hold Bruce in high regards in this concern.
 _________________ **Proof is on the floor!!! |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei


Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 29847
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce Lee is one of those special figures in the world. His physical abilities were incredible. He was a thinker and a doer, and luckily for us, he put a lot of it down on paper. He broke some barriers in training that have left an indelible mark on the MA world.
I imagine that the was probably more than capable of handling himself in fights and self-defense scenarios. I don't believe that he was unbeatable, and I do believe that if he would have had the chance to step into the Octagon in his prime, I'm not sure if he would have. What would a public loss have done to his image in his prime? Who knows, I could be very wrong, and perhaps he would have been more than willing to step into the Octagon to show what he had developed. It would have been great to see, that is for sure.
For now, the legend lives on....and I think the MA world is all the better for it. _________________ www.haysgym.com
http://www.sunyis.com/
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sensei8
KF Sensei


Joined: 23 Feb 2008
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Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:02 am Post subject: |
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bushido_man96 wrote: |
Bruce Lee is one of those special figures in the world. His physical abilities were incredible. He was a thinker and a doer, and luckily for us, he put a lot of it down on paper. He broke some barriers in training that have left an indelible mark on the MA world.
I imagine that the was probably more than capable of handling himself in fights and self-defense scenarios. I don't believe that he was unbeatable, and I do believe that if he would have had the chance to step into the Octagon in his prime, I'm not sure if he would have. What would a public loss have done to his image in his prime? Who knows, I could be very wrong, and perhaps he would have been more than willing to step into the Octagon to show what he had developed. It would have been great to see, that is for sure.
For now, the legend lives on....and I think the MA world is all the better for it. |
Solid post!!
 _________________ **Proof is on the floor!!! |
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pers
Purple Belt

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Location: England
Styles: shotokan
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:53 am Post subject: |
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Bruce Lee is the equivalent of the Beatles in martial arts.
He inspired many many people to follow his path including me as a young boy.
I don't think he was invincible but he was a tremendous martial artist, there are too many ifs and buts and Bruce Lee was a human after all but a very determined and focused and talented individual. _________________ never give up ! |
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sensei8
KF Sensei


Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16104
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:07 am Post subject: |
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pers wrote: |
Bruce Lee is the equivalent of the Beatles in martial arts.
He inspired many many people to follow his path including me as a young boy.
I don't think he was invincible but he was a tremendous martial artist, there are too many ifs and buts and Bruce Lee was a human after all but a very determined and focused and talented individual. |
I agree!!
And because he was a human being, he was far from being invincible, as all of us MAists are, however, Bruce had a edge that placed him in a very small percentage of being defeated.
 _________________ **Proof is on the floor!!! |
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pers
Purple Belt

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Location: England
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:58 am Post subject: |
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sensei8 wrote: |
pers wrote: |
Bruce Lee is the equivalent of the Beatles in martial arts.
He inspired many many people to follow his path including me as a young boy.
I don't think he was invincible but he was a tremendous martial artist, there are too many ifs and buts and Bruce Lee was a human after all but a very determined and focused and talented individual. |
I agree!!
And because he was a human being, he was far from being invincible, as all of us MAists are, however, Bruce had a edge that placed him in a very small percentage of being defeated.
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Oss sensei! 😍 _________________ never give up ! |
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JazzKicker
Orange Belt

Joined: 07 Aug 2017
Posts: 164
Location: NJ
Styles: JKD, TSD, MMA
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Whether he could really fight or was just a showman is a question that comes up a lot about Bruce Lee.
I've trained in JKD quite a bit over the years, including with people who trained with him or some of his early students. They would tell you he was the real deal, an innovator, a genius. Whether his theories about combat hold up in real life depend, as always, on the person applying them
Keep in mind, the martial arts world was very different then. Styles did not mix, people did not cross-train, knowledge (whether right or wrong) was not freely shared. Traditionalism was very strong and people "stayed in their lane".
In today's world, Bruce might have done very well in his weight class in the UFC- IF he'd gotten more into the ground game. But that MMA exists at all is in part due to his influence. I think his contribution eclipses whether he would have been a top contender in ring sports. |
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