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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:39 am    Post subject: Chang Hon TaeKwonDo schools without knee spring/sine wave? Reply with quote

I am trying to find as many organization as possible.

Chon Sil Taekwondo federation is one. What about the other ones?

I tried googling some of the styles/federations mentioned her but they seem to be pretty obscure
http://www.martialtalk.com/threads/curious-question-itf-without-sine-wave.94511/
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school is Sun Yi's Academy, under the Traditional Taekwondo Association (TTA), and we do the Chang Hon forms without knee spring. However, we don't do all the forms that the ITF does.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GM Young Ik Suh's form of TKD doesn't teach the sine wave. Of which, I'm very thankful for.

The practice of the sine wave, especially the overly executed sine wave drives me dizzy. Are we on a carousel now??

Shindokan teaches, and this is our way, that the sine wave kills the power at the apex curve (the very absolute top of the power curve). Many styles of the MA shy away from the sine wave; so, there must be something in that!!



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bushido_man96 wrote:
My school is Sun Yi's Academy, under the Traditional Taekwondo Association (TTA), and we do the Chang Hon forms without knee spring. However, we don't do all the forms that the ITF does.


Which ones do you skip? Do you also have shotokan forms?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sensei8 wrote:
GM Young Ik Suh's form of TKD doesn't teach the sine wave. Of which, I'm very thankful for.



Bless him:)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bushido_man96 wrote:
My school is Sun Yi's Academy, under the Traditional Taekwondo Association (TTA), and we do the Chang Hon forms without knee spring. However, we don't do all the forms that the ITF does.


Which ones do you skip? Do you also have shotokan forms?


Ones in the black belt ranks. The lower ranks are all pretty much intact.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loads of groups in the UK who don't do sine wave but practice Chang Hon. Off the top of my head the biggest is probably TAGB (part of Taekwondo International under Grandmaster CK Choi). We also have smaller groups like the GTI and many independent schools who do Chang Hon but don't do dinner wave.

For international groups there's Hee Il Cho's AIMAA.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sensei8 wrote:
GM Young Ik Suh's form of TKD doesn't teach the sine wave. Of which, I'm very thankful for.

The practice of the sine wave, especially the overly executed sine wave drives me dizzy. Are we on a carousel now??

Shindokan teaches, and this is our way, that the sine wave kills the power at the apex curve (the very absolute top of the power curve). Many styles of the MA shy away from the sine wave; so, there must be something in that!!



You do find it elsewhere though. Just not by the same name. e.g. Jack Dempsey's Falling Step in boxing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DWx wrote:
sensei8 wrote:
GM Young Ik Suh's form of TKD doesn't teach the sine wave. Of which, I'm very thankful for.

The practice of the sine wave, especially the overly executed sine wave drives me dizzy. Are we on a carousel now??

Shindokan teaches, and this is our way, that the sine wave kills the power at the apex curve (the very absolute top of the power curve). Many styles of the MA shy away from the sine wave; so, there must be something in that!!



You do find it elsewhere though. Just not by the same name. e.g. Jack Dempsey's Falling Step in boxing


Jack dempseys fallit step is not sine wave. And to those Sine wave supporters like yourself claiming that it has been exaggerated in recent time, check out general chois own demonstrations of it on youtube. He is rocking up and down as if its the Titanic. Extremely bouncy instructional.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody beliving in the science of sine wave should read this from an ITF guy entitled problems with theory of power

http://www.doboksquawk.com/problems-with-theory-of-power-1/
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