complete art

shotokanwarrior · Green Belt

I know cross training is helpful, but is there such a thing as a complete art that will teach you all ranges of combat and focus on self defense and weapons?
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TJS · Black Belt

yes there are certain stlyes that cover all aspect's of a fight. but generally speaking they are great for self defense purposes. I may be biased but i think Krav Maga is an excellent example of this.

But you cany be a master of all trades, it is important ot be well rounded but i think you have to find your bread and butter.

1ONEfighting · Orange Belt

There are many arts that try to encompass everything, but I prefer to find specialists in each area of combat and train with them. Keeps me from getting complacent.
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Karateka_latino · Black Belt

I also think its much better to have a base-martial art and crosstrain in other to fill the gaps.

crouton · Yellow Belt

that is exactly what vee arnis jitsu is, a complete art. a self defense system that covers all angles. it is composed of mainly three arts - vee jitsu, muay thai, and arnis, but in some ways has aspects of other arts in it. it covers your striking, groundwork, joint locks, and weapons. everything you would need in a self defense situation.
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JerryLove · Black Belt

For the proponents... what do yo ufeel is the advantage of taking (say) three base arts over combining the three into one and taking that.

I know what you loose; you loose cohesion. What do you feel you gain?
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Shorinryu Sensei · Black Belt

Is there such a thing as a "complete art"? Yes, I think so, but it depends on what YOU consider complete I think. Everybody is going to define that differently.

I do Orthodox Shorinryu..the old version, and for me, it is a complete art. Someone else may look at it and say it's lacking possibly, because there is no emphasis on sport or competition. Nor do we do breaking (other than bones). To us, those aspects aren't necessary, but to others, they would be.

Sasori_Te · Black Belt

Right on the money Shorin Ryu Sensei. Was it Abraham Lincoln that said, "You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time." I doubt that there will ever be one art that can be everything to everyone.
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Uechi Kid · Orange Belt

Ya. Tai Chi.

Treebranch · Black Belt

Budo Taijutsu has everything you can think of and probably things you haven't thought of. It is right up there with Arnis and Krav Maga in many ways. The difference with thisTMA is that they teach you the traditional way of doing it and the modern use for it. I can't speak for all Budo Taijutsu schools, but this is a pretty common in the Bujinkan.
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