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stuart
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Joined: 22 Oct 2003
Posts: 26
Location: England
Styles: Karate
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 Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 11:03 am Post subject: Do Grading failers quit? |
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| I read on a website that on average 90% of people who are failed in their grading quit. Is this representative of peoples experience in martial arts? |
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SaiFightsMS
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Joined: 28 Oct 2001
Posts: 6397
Location: Ohio
Styles: Shotokan, Shorin Ryu, Shi-to Ryu
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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I think among the people I have seen fail gradings the only ones who have quit because they failed would have quit anyway.
And those who fail and keep trying are those who have the most desire. |
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Ben
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Joined: 23 Aug 2003
Posts: 133
Location: Mansfield, Notts, UK.
Styles: Hap Ki Do
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hmm.... for an underbelt testing, i wouldnt really mind - but if it was my 1st Dan, i would be a lot more frustrated and disappointed in myself. I see 1st Dan as where you really start to train, and although i'm nowhere near that yet, i just seem to "know"
I wouldnt quit if i failed first Dan though.. i would probably not attend class for a few weeks, maybe a month or two. I'd lay it aside and just train on basics.
I can almost believe that 90% quit though... but maybe i'm misguided  |
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SaiFightsMS
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I think that it is approximately only 10 % of those who begin training actually hang in long enough to get a black belt. |
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shortstick
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Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Posts: 71
Location: central california
Styles: Kempo, Tae Kwon Do, Sarrada Eskrima
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that seems pretty high. I have failed(We call it a "No change" ) about 15 students over about a 6 year period, none of them quit beacause of that. Most of those were brain farts....I had seen them do the criteria over and over, but on test day.....well it happens.... Some did stop later in training, as many do. If I am doing my job, then the student is well prepared for the test......his failure in most cases, would be mine....as I am the one who prepared him and told him he should test 
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Thruhiker
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Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Posts: 124
Location: Michigan
Styles: TKD
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:43 am Post subject: |
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I am curious as to how many MA's on the forum have been denied their next belt?
My Sabum Nim Gae will not allow us to test unless he feels that we have met or exceeded his expectations for our next belt. |
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shortstick
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Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Posts: 71
Location: central california
Styles: Kempo, Tae Kwon Do, Sarrada Eskrima
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That is how it should be!
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ninjanurse
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Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Posts: 6154
Location: Upstate NY
Styles: TKD;Shotokan;JuJitsu;Tai Ji
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Those that do not give up have passed the hardest test of all.
(Sorry Tommarker...I had to say it!!) 
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angelica d
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Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Posts: 244
Location: York
Styles: Shotokan
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:03 am Post subject: |
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It's the same with us, we don't get to grade until we've gone past the expectations for the next rank. As for me personally, I don't think I'd quit if I failed a grading, but I'd be pretty disheartened! I mean, I already train as hard as I can so if I ever failed it would make me think I was a complete no-hoper. Hope I never have to be in that situation though!  |
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LeopardGold
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| Thats the same in my dojo. We don't get tested unless our sensei decides we definitely can pass. I haven't failed a test ever most likely because of this. But if I did ever fail I wouldn't quit, thats like going into college getting one F on a paper and deciding you have to drop out. I don't like giving up that easily. |
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