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koreantiger81
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 9:18 pm    Post subject: Do instructors pay for classes? Reply with quote

I was hired at a school and at the same time I trained at this school. I still had to pay regular tuition fees to train. Do you still pay for tuition, if you're an instructor and a student at your do jang?
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G95champ
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We would always use a hand full of blackbelts as Asst. Instructors. Most of the time they would get lessons free or reduced based on how much they helped out.
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Karateka_latino
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know about schools that once people get there black belts, the instructor ask them to teach a couple of hours a week as part as there BB training, don't pay them for it and the BB still pay every month..
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KU
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it should be up to the instructor if he/she pays or not, if the dojo is in financial trouble then everyone needs to help out but if it’s making a healthy profit then a person that spends more time teaching then learning probably shouldn’t pay fees especially if that money is going straight in someone else’s pocket.
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SaiFightsMS
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on how much teaching is done and what kind of classes are being taken.
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karatekid1975
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In both the dojangs I went to/go to, the instructors pay for tuition. But they get paid too. I donno how that works, but it happened.

My TSD instructor still trains. He goes to the big-wig's dojang to train, and yes, he pays tuition. I have no clue about my TKD instructor yet.
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Karateka_latino
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe, BB who are also teacher, should have a discount at least.
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koreantiger81
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2002 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you work at any retail outlet or any company, usually there are perks for their employees. Unfortunately, I paid regular tuition while instructed at one school. A discount on tuition would of helped, since it was extremely expensive. Half of my earnings went to my tuition..
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KickChick
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2002 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, one of the "rules" of our school is if you instruct at the school you are required to also train there as well. It was getting to the point where instrctors were "counting" their time spent instructing as training time when in fact it is not. Which brings up another question: "Should instructors also be training as consistently as they teach?" Is it necessary?
I say so!!
So it is in the best interests of both school and the instructors to have the school offer discounted or free tuition depending on the amount of time spent teaching.
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KU
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess you could argue that by teaching the teacher is also learning at the same time, you can find out so much about a technique just from showing someone else how to do it. So if someone learns as they teach they are always a student.

I hope that makes sence.
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