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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16430
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:38 pm Post subject: Drawn Out Explanation!! |
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Just how technical do you want any verbal explanation of any technique of the MA be presented to you??
A simple verbal description might attract many others, whereas, simplicity turns off many others; to be or not to be.
I detest a drawn out verbal explanation more than I detest a root canal; one kills me, while the other, is a necessity. I want the presenter to get to the point as quickly as possible because anything else beside that starts my mind to become quite numb, and as we know, a numb mind can't remember important facts.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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I try to explain as much as possible in as brief an explanation as possible. Too much talking and not enough doing doesn't help improve technique, nor practice application. Brief explanation, then do and do and do. Explain a little bit more to correct something here and there, and then do and do and do some more. Shade in a little more correction and keep on doing. That's my philosophy. _________________ www.haysgym.com
http://www.sunyis.com/
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DWx
Black Belt
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 6455
Location: UK
Styles: Tae Kwon Do & Yang family Tai Chi
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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What works for some doesn't work for others. That's why you have to be adaptable adjust to the student. I prefer detail as long as it's concise. But too brief an explanation which glosses over detail is far worse for me than someone over-explaining. _________________ "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16430
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Both, Brian and Danielle, share excellent points; there's always a fine line. Too much or too little of a verbal explanation waxes effectiveness across the board.
It's those novel sized verbal explanations that make me want to take a long walk on a very short pier!!
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singularity6
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 26 Jun 2017
Posts: 958
Location: Michigan
Styles: Jidokwan Taekwondo and Hapkido, Yoshokai Aikido, ZNIR Iaido, Kendo
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:56 am Post subject: |
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I've experienced that more often than not. Our instructors tend to talk a lot. There've been times where I only get to practice a particular technique a couple times in 5 minutes because whoever's teaching at the time is on repeat (or, someone gets too carried away and shows us everything else you can do with that technique.) _________________ 5th Geup Jidokwan Tae Kwon Do/Hap Ki Do
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16430
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Say what you mean, and mean what you say!! Important, and necessary!! But, for the love of something, can it be articulated while I'm still young...and able...and willing!!
Nothing feels worse when the Kaicho [me] walks out of the class because they're going on and on, like some Rush song; long and with no end in sight.
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OneKickWonder
Purple Belt
Joined: 17 Feb 2018
Posts: 513
Styles: Tang soo do
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Our instructor usually keeps it brief, but very occasionally he will talk at length.
I enjoy it. He doesn't talk at length about his day at work, or his family life, or his car. He talks about the philosophy or applications of what we are learning, or the reason why we train the way we do, or other insightful things that are very much relevant to our training and study.
The way I see it, I'm happy to lose 10 minutes of training time every now and then while I learn some of his insights. I can practice most of the basic mechanics of a technique or form at home, at work during a break, in the park, anywhere. But I can only get the insights of a person that has lived martial arts since childhood directly from the horse's mouth if I'm actually there and listening patiently. |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16430
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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OneKickWonder wrote: |
Our instructor usually keeps it brief, but very occasionally he will talk at length.
I enjoy it. He doesn't talk at length about his day at work, or his family life, or his car. He talks about the philosophy or applications of what we are learning, or the reason why we train the way we do, or other insightful things that are very much relevant to our training and study.
The way I see it, I'm happy to lose 10 minutes of training time every now and then while I learn some of his insights. I can practice most of the basic mechanics of a technique or form at home, at work during a break, in the park, anywhere. But I can only get the insights of a person that has lived martial arts since childhood directly from the horse's mouth if I'm actually there and listening patiently. |
Solid post!!
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LLLEARNER
Brown Belt
Joined: 10 Feb 2016
Posts: 687
Location: Central Maine
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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My Sensei gives a basic explanation and description then corrects our performance. _________________ "Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know." ~ Lao-tzu, Tao Te Ching
"Walk a single path, becoming neither cocky with victory nor broken with defeat, without forgetting caution when all is quiet or becoming frightened when danger threatens." ~ Jigaro Kano |
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MatsuShinshii
Black Belt
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1423
Location: Kentucky
Styles: Machimura Suidi Rokudan, Ryukyu Kenpo, Kobudo, Judo
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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I think it depends on your audience and how much or little they know of the subject. Some things come down to common sense and others need to be explained with more detail.
It also depends on the reactions and expressions of those that you are speaking to. Deer in the head lights looks probably means you need to go a bit deeper. If they are yawning and looking everywhere except at you, you're probably beating a dead horse and need to cut it short. _________________ The person who succeeds is not the one who holds back, fearing failure, nor the one who never fails-but the one who moves on in spite of failure.
Charles R. Swindoll |
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