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Rainbow_Warrior
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Styles: Now : MMA/luta livre/Thai , before :Kung fu,kick boxing , boxing, amateur wrestling
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 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: Higher guard in the street ? |
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Many MA and speaciall MMA , tends to look for a balanced guard, protecting the face , but avoiding the holes in the torax section and legs (for takedowns in some arts , ie).
But is it necessary in a street fight ?
I think that the average joe will try to maul your face with punches ....the chances you have to face Sagat or tito ortiz in a street confrontation are low.
The fact of having a high guard , doesnt stop you to take him down and give you a strong protection to your head , plus adding speed and reaction to the hands....and in the case that the guy try to take you down ( we are talking ' bout a brawler) you may sprawl with ease.}
Of course that ...there is the change that you might face a skilled wrestler....but that aint happen every day. Its a risk , I know.
Am I talking crap ? maybe its too late 
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bushido_man96
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The BB of C
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Joined: 11 Feb 2007
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Location: Orlando, Florida
Styles: Kuk Sool Won, Isshin-ryu, Capoeira, Brazillian Jiu Jutsu, Judo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it's all about your instinct and reflexes. You could have any kind of guard you want as long as you are able to block to begin with. I've heard about people without any guard at all winning street fights. |
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cross
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| Keeping your hands in a position that allows for quick response and max protection to the majority of your upper body is important. Protecting your head specifically is crucial, has you said, most people will head hunt when placed under stress. But dont limit yourself to just protecting the face, even the most conditioned stomach wont stop a knife.... |
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Rainbow_Warrior
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| even the most conditioned stomach wont stop a knife |
well I am not talking about blades. Even the most conditioned hand or forearm cant stop a blade without damage either.You may stop the hand/arm carring the blade...but not the blade.
I am talking about a fight w/o external tools  !
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| A savvy street fighter would take advantage of the open abdomen |
Yes....but he would need a lot of power (or mass) to KO you if he does not have the propper technique and movements. Is rare to get Koed by a punch landed on the stomach ( in the street).
Browlers in general dont use straight punches , and if they do , start the punch 1 feet behind their heads..
I am just making general affimations. Of course some street fighter could take advantage....As I said...it stills being risky.
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bushido_man96
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cross
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| But you never know if someone may pull a knife. It is always something to think about. |
Agreed. Its been shown time after time that people who get stabbed often dont know they have been until its 2 late. A good rule of thumb is there are only 2 things you can safely assume in a self defense situation:
1. The other person is armed, and
2. He has friends. |
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bushido_man96
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marie curie
Black Belt
Joined: 18 Oct 2005
Posts: 1023
Location: PA, USA
Styles: Ko Sutemi Seiei Kan Karate, Kajukenbo, Kodokan Judo, Gracie Barra Jiu-Jitsu, Olympic Tae Kwon Doe
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I think that when a person strikes a few at you, you can tell if he'll be all head shots, or if he's more likely to hit all over.
Interesting point!
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username8517
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| A savvy street fighter would take advantage of the open abdomen. However, it is an interesting point. |
How you have your guard can put you a distinct advantage simply by the example listed above--it lets you dictate the odds of where your opponent is going to strike.
Odds are we are all going to attack what we perceive as our opponents openings or weak points. And likewise, our opponents will attack us where they think our openings and weak points are . By knowing ahead of time what your opponents thinks is your openings, it allows you to be one step ahead of them.
For example, have a high guard and your opponent sees an opening in your abdomen--you can expect their first attack is going to be a body shot coming your way.
Keep a low guard and your opponent sees your head as exposed. Open your guard a little (to about shoulder width) and your opponent will see an opening down the middle. Bring your guard in closer and slightly turn at an angle and your opponent will see an opening on your outside.
A smart fighter will feed his or her opponent where they want to be attacked and destroy their opponent when the attack they want comes in. |
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on the post.
