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Warp Spider
Brown Belt
Joined: 03 Jul 2003
Posts: 615
Location: The Origin of the Universe
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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There is always a high chance that Tyson will lose because most of the UFC guys are way more skilled than Tyson when it comes to fighting skills. |
How would you know? Have you ever fought the guy? Obviously there's a lot of stuff he couldn't do in the ring (but tries anyway ) that he could do in UFC. He could be the best grappler in the world and you wouldn't know it because he doesn't use it in the ring, and that's likely the only place you've seen him fight. _________________ Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God! |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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He could be the best grappler in the world and you wouldn't know it because he doesn't use it in the ring |
no he couldent and he isint...he has said so himself...he said he would not fight in a NHB event because he is only trained to fight with his hands..noty with kicks, knees, elbows, takedowns etc...this is all from him. |
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martialartist1
Orange Belt
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Posts: 157
Location: UK
Styles: no style as style
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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yeh, simply tyson would win most of the time, as tyson is one of the greatest boxers of all time! |
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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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So what if Tyson prepares and learns some grappling, say BJJ. What then? _________________ "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who
are willing to endure pain with patience."
"Lock em out or Knock em out" |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Treebranch wrote: |
So what if Tyson prepares and learns some grappling, say BJJ. What then? |
Mike Tyson would be the standup figheter in the UFC or pride..If he learned how to grapple and learned how to avoid takedowns he would proabably be one of the best fighters in the world(outside boxing)
Mike has incredible KO power and few would be able to stand with him.
He would also need to do some cross training in Muay thai so he could learn how to deal with leg kicks and not get KO'd by a knee from the clinch.
but that will never happen..there isint enough money in the NHB for him to put it on the line. |
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StoneSkin
Orange Belt
Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 178
Location: Manitoba
Styles: Shotokan
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I agree Tyson would probably do better in WWE there is more money to be made there. |
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Warp Spider
Brown Belt
Joined: 03 Jul 2003
Posts: 615
Location: The Origin of the Universe
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 4:46 am Post subject: |
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TJS wrote: |
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He could be the best grappler in the world and you wouldn't know it because he doesn't use it in the ring |
no he couldent and he isint...he has said so himself...he said he would not fight in a NHB event because he is only trained to fight with his hands..noty with kicks, knees, elbows, takedowns etc...this is all from him. |
Well, I could say that I have no idea how to walk, but it would be a lie. I'd sure have the element of surprise in the Special Olympics though! Dahahahah! _________________ Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God! |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:18 am Post subject: |
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yes im sure your right..i bet top boxers spend alot of time grappling so they can train less in boxing whitch is their job. |
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Warp Spider
Brown Belt
Joined: 03 Jul 2003
Posts: 615
Location: The Origin of the Universe
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 4:40 am Post subject: |
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I'm not saying that he is a good grappler, I'm just saying it's unfair to assume that he is not a good grappler just because that's what he said.
I'm sure for most of you, martial arts is not your job, but that doesn't mean you don't train in it. _________________ Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God! |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:48 am Post subject: |
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I'm just saying it's unfair to assume that he is not a good grappler just because that's what he said |
Yes it is perfectly fair and any reasonalable person would assume so..If George Bush said he wasant a good grappler I would proabably belive him along witht he rest of the world.
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I'm sure for most of you, martial arts is not your job, but that doesn't mean you don't train in it. |
If i Made Millions fighting with my hands I wouldent spend alot of time learning to fight with anything else...I dont think yo understand how much time a Pro boxer spends training. |
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