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chrisw08
Orange Belt
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Posts: 154
Styles: Shorin Ryu Matsumura Seito/ Kenshin Kan/ of Grandmaster Fusei Kise/
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:59 am Post subject: Pullups and its effects on martial arts |
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I was wondering because I have never really been able to do pullups that much it effects on martial arts. Does it give you incredible power if you train really hard on them because I have done pushups with weight vest and the results of power were amazing but is the results of pullups any better since it is more difficult or are those muscles not as important |
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Canadian77
Orange Belt
Joined: 10 Jan 2014
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:44 am Post subject: |
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I don't have an answer, but I wanted to say, good question! I'm very curious as well. We do plenty of push-ups, but no pull ups, and I hadn't even thought about it before. I'm not sure if that's due to lack of facilities - - not easy to have something for a class of students to do pull ups - - or if it isn't as useful an exercise. I hope someone knows the answer! |
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Zaine
Black Belt
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 2298
Location: Dallas, TX
Styles: Matsumura-Seito, Shobayashi-Ryu, Shudokan, Long Fist, American Street Karate, Southern Mantis, HEMA
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:40 am Post subject: |
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A lot of martial arts don't do pull-ups in class but that doesn't mean that they aren't super useful. Most pull-ups work the back and upper arm muscles. Both of which are important to martial arts (and all muscles are important to your body). Remember that you can generate power through the use of your back muscles as well as your core, your arms and many other muscles. I would suggest that during your warm ups for at home practicing you buy a pull-up bar and start working on it.
Long story short, symmetry in your body is important for balance. Working out your pectoral and not your back is not a good idea. For the best result in your martial arts journey (and maintaining a healthy body) you should make sure that you work out your entire body. _________________ Martial arts training is 30% classroom training, 70% solo training.
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wagnerk
Purple Belt
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Posts: 576
Location: UK
Styles: TSD, Karate & Kickboxing
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Personally I would say that pull-ups along with Horizontal Pull-ups (or reverse push ups) is a great way of balancing out your muscles. _________________ Tang Soo Do: 3rd Dan '18
Karate: 2nd Dan '04 |
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Anaku
White Belt
Joined: 26 Feb 2014
Posts: 7
Location: Top Secret
Styles: Shorin Ryu Kwan Bup TKD Hapkido
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Any bodyweight exercise is helpful to increase ones general strength. However, to be proficient in MA one needs to use their whole body in a dynamic way. Traditionally martial strength and awareness was fostered by some sort of qi gong training. Unfortunately there are a lot of people teaching it that have no idea what they are doing and done incorrectly can severely damage ones health. Lastly, a true martial art uses leverage, strategy, timing and skill to overcome an opponent not raw strength. _________________ Bunkai Decoder |
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mal103
Purple Belt
Joined: 21 May 2011
Posts: 559
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hikite is the pulling part of most actions, the open hand pulling down as you upper block, the open hand pulling in as you outer-to-inner block etc
(Please understand my use of the word block means to me response which translates to forearm smash...)
Pulling towards your heart is supposed to be the most powerful so any exercise that strengthens your arm pulling muscles is excellent for your MA! |
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Nidan Melbourne
KF Sempai
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
Posts: 2367
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Styles: Goju-Ryu, BJJ, Balintawak Arnis
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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it has some benefits to do pull-ups, but it is obviously different depending on the variant that you do of it. As you have to work muscles even more if your doing the vertical pull-ups as you have to move a greater distance. |
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ShoriKid
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Posts: 900
Styles: Matsubyashi-Ryu, Okinawan Kempo, wrestling, bits of BJJ
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce Lee with his batwings. If they didn't help the small man hit hard, why would he work so hard on them?
Pull ups will develop the back, which help lock the torso down and move the core explosively. Do not over look them. For close range sparring, where pulling, gripping and moving over people is useful they are good, as with any grappling art. _________________ Kisshu fushin, Oni te hotoke kokoro. A demon's hand, a saint's heart. -- Osensei Shoshin Nagamine |
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brickshooter
Green Belt
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Boxers also work at enlarging their lats. It's probably the only muscle that they try to build mass in, fearing weight gain would bump them from their weight class. Judokas also heavily work on pull-ups and pulling excercises. In other words, pull ups are extremely beneficial. |
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Wastelander
KF Sensei
Joined: 18 Oct 2010
Posts: 2742
Location: Salem, IL
Styles: Shorin-Ryu, Shuri-Ryu, Judo, KishimotoDi
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Pull-ups are an excellent exercise for building strength in the arms and back which, in addition to being important for muscular balance and posture, are vital for clinchwork and grappling situations. I try to do some variation of pull-ups every time I work out--and there are many different variations to try that will focus on different movements and muscle groups. My current favorite is the kettlebell clinch pull-up. _________________ Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf Karlsson
Shorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)
Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)
Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian Rivera
Illinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society |
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