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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| Alan Armstrong wrote: |
In Zen there is no divisions, that is why Karate adopted it.
Nature knows no divisions but mankind needs to divide everything for the sake of knowledge to dissect it and not for harmony but for profit, ownership and power.
We understand Zen but the people in this world divide it, to understand it, but more often than not forget to reunite it.
How silly us humans are, that we cannot appreciate more with less?
With 100 toppings for popcorn, then what does popcorn taste like, of course your favorite flavor.
Martial arts should have no flavor, only the taste of victory should be your reward. |
I think nature knows plenty of divisions. The carnivores and the herbivores, the sky, the land, and the ocean. The jungles and the deserts. And on and on. The animal kingdom just doesn't discuss it over coffee like we do.
Sucks to be them, really, not being able to drink coffee....
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singularity6
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 26 Jun 2017
Posts: 958
Location: Michigan
Styles: Jidokwan Taekwondo and Hapkido, Yoshokai Aikido, ZNIR Iaido, Kendo
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Mmmmm. Coffee.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
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Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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Luther unleashed
Brown Belt
Joined: 30 Jan 2014
Posts: 676
Location: Phoenix
Styles: A few!
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To me I usually see the word system used when somebody blends different styles. As for concept, I have really never seen it used except for Jeet Kune Do, which by all means is a concept and not an actual art because in order for it to be a specific aren’t it would have to have some structure, Bruce intended for it to be malleable and fit each practitioner like a jacket. This was one of the very first Arts I delved into in 1993 and until this day I say I studied “Jeet Kune Do concepts” because it’s not a set group of techniques, it is simply the idea of intercepting your opponent with a strike.
I actually was awarded a 2nd degree black belt recently in a “System” which is a blend of Arts, although it has a foundation in a particular style for structure.
Typically a style is done more similar across the board and represents a more one dementional approach. This is not a bad thing, it is the difference between being well-rounded versus being a specialist. I went through this as a mechanic for 16 years. One of my mechanic mentors used to say it is best to be well-rounded and no lots of things, years later another mentor of mine suggested it was best to be a specialist and specialize in one area. Just as in martial arts I chose to practice many things, and the same as a mechanic. There were times I had to send things out to a specialist but over time I became very good at most things. I personally view the martial arts this way, but as to the original post I believe these three things are actually not just a label but I way of describing the difference.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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There was a serious martial art style developed by martial art experts.
It failed to catch on for one reason alone, due to its name.
DEFENDO |
I think it primarily had its usage in the military for a short period of time.
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16430
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| Alan Armstrong wrote: |
There was a serious martial art style developed by martial art experts.
It failed to catch on for one reason alone, due to its name.
DEFENDO |
I think it primarily had its usage in the military for a short period of time. |
For those here that might be interested...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defendo
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Alan Armstrong
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| sensei8 wrote: |
| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| Alan Armstrong wrote: |
There was a serious martial art style developed by martial art experts.
It failed to catch on for one reason alone, due to its name.
DEFENDO |
I think it primarily had its usage in the military for a short period of time. |
For those here that might be interested...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defendo
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LOL.
Could just imagine on the boat, in the movie "Enter the dragon'
As Bruce is asked " What's your style" as Bruce answers "Defendo or is it Combato"
Would make for a funny parody.
Thanks for sharing sensei8 |
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bushido_man96
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Alan Armstrong
Black Belt
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| I'm thinking of the one founded by last name Fairbairn I think. |
William Ewart Fairbairn (/ˈfɛərbɛərn/; 28 February 1885 – 20 June 1960) was a British Royal Marine and police officer. He developed hand-to-hand combat methods for the Shanghai Police during the interwar period, as well as for the allied special forces during World War II. He created his own fighting system known as Defendu. Notably, this included innovative pistol shooting techniques and the development of the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife.
After joining the SMP, he studied boxing, wrestling, savate, Shin no Shinto ryu jujutsu (Yoshin ryu) from Okada-sensei[who?], Kodokan judo in which he gained 2nd degrees black belt, and then Chinese martial arts. He developed his own fighting system—Defendu—and taught it to members of that police force in order to reduce officer fatalities. He described this system as primarily based on his personal experience, which according to police records included some 600 non-training fights, by his retirement at age 55 from the position of Assistant Commissioner in 1940.[citation needed]
In 1951, he went to Cyprus to train police and in 1952 (and 1956) Fairbairn provided training to the Singapore Police Force's Riot Squad unit, which is now Police Tactical Unit.[3]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_E._Fairbairn
GET TOUGH
(1942 hand combat comic booklet as taught to you by Captain W.E. Fairbairn)
http://www.ep.tc/problems/46/index.html
(This book is free and easy to read, on my smart phone, just touching the screen turns the page) and GET TOUGHER.
The picturea/drawings/illustrations in this book are priceless.. just luv'em!
How to secure a prisoner to a tree, without rope?
http://www.ep.tc/problems/46/084.html |
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on the post.
