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datguy
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 Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: UFC Punches... |
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Is it just me or does anyone else notice that although UFC fighters have a good ground game and decent kicks, their punches lack techinque. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure theyre very powerful but it seems to me that the majority of them throw wild bar fight type hooks. They also never seem to block punches or kicks. Just something that crossed my mind.
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bushido_man96
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I think most of them have decent punching technique. They do pretty good jabs, crosses, and hooks, I think. Most of their defense involves covering and moving, and not outright blocking of punches. Much like Boxing does.
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ShoriKid
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Styles: Matsubyashi-Ryu, Okinawan Kempo, wrestling, bits of BJJ
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I would look at people like the Diaz brothers, BJ Penn, Kenny Florian, Marcus Davis, Sam Stout, Spencer Fisher, and upper level fighter with decent striking has nice, clean movement and punches. As bushido_man96 said, they will generally cover to stop most strikes and check low kicks.
When they're not experienced, gassed or going for a looping over hand, things can get wild.
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Lee M
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I think you'll see a big surge in boxing skills in the next 12 months.
Look at Dos Santos and GSP destroyed their last opponents with better boxing skills.
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Liver Punch
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I'm not sure that traditional boxing is the best thing to attempt to employ in MMA. A boxing stance doesn't do much to protect you from kicks or take downs. I'm sure there's a Muay Thai forum in Thailand or Holland where they're complaining about how the quality of kicking and clinch work in MMA isn't the best. I know a lot of BJJ guys who say that 90% of MMA fighters "on't do Jiujitsu right".
We've seen pro-boxers get out struck in MMA, bro kick boxers get out kicked, and BJJ black belts get submitted = all by people who "lack in pedigree and technique.
The rules and environment change everything, and punching - at its core - is just a way to hurt someone by hitting them. Chris Leben and Wanderlei Silva have racked up lots of knockouts without pretty technique. I'd say that the best technique is the one that works.
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thacker
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I also think that MMA fighters have sound and good boxing techniques for the most part at least until they start in with the haymakers. One technically sound MMA fighter to watch is GSP and although he is very technical in just about every area his boxing is exceptional. He is just awesome to watch and study techniques on.
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scohen.mma
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Location: Long Island, New York
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honestly, i've noticed that some of the best fighters like Georges St. Pierre, Nick Diaz and especially Nate Diaz have GREAT boxing technique. When GSP was going to fight Josh Koshcheck, Koshckeck was talking about how GSP just wrestles people and cant really punch or whatever, so what did GSP do? he focused on his boxing training and completely boxed Josh Koshcheck and won the fight. Nick Diaz does great with the body shots and jabs, and Nate Diaz i've noticed has great accuracy with his strikes and combos. Same with BJ Penn. but when it comes to blocking, your right. now a lot of them will try and block a punch. i think that something that goes through most of the UFC fighters minds is "a strong offense is a good defense."
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