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Punchdrunk
Orange Belt
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2002 8:32 am Post subject: |
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I believe there is some weapons work but only for black belts and it isn't mentioned much to us lower ranks except in how weapons relate to kata and kihon. Principle rather than use.
Didn't Kano and Osensei both develope their styles as off shoots from jujutsu? Did they have the same teacher? As innovators from similar backgrounds and times they would either have great admiration or dilike for each other. Do you know anything about their relationship? |
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BlackI
Orange Belt
Joined: 05 Aug 2002
Posts: 121
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2002 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know much about Aikido, but from what I have read and seen it is pretty effective. I see that a lot of the postings say that it takes along time to master this Art, does anyone know approx how long it takes a typical student to gain mastery of the techiniques |
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Kensai
Black Belt
Joined: 05 Jul 2002
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Location: Britain
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Well, O Sensei created Aikido from Daito Ryu Aikijutsu, which dates back some 800 years. I dont really enough about Kano's judo, but as I understand it he created the "soft way", so that there would be less injuries of practicing Judoka. Between O Sensei and Kano there was always a small rivialry, but the both repsected each other greatly.
Master of Aikido techniques, I would say that it takes a life time. But you could defend yourself against the average man, after about a year or so. My Sensei has been practicing for some 30 years and I dont think that she would say that she has mastered it. |
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Karateka_latino
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2001
Posts: 1299
Location: Panama city, Panama
Styles: Goju-Ryu Karate do; Kung Fu.
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Bah, Aikido is a waste of time!!!! not worth learning
Im joking, lol
Now really, i think its a beatifull Art to learn. can be practiced by anyone from child, to woman, to old and young.
Im considering taking Aikido at some point of my life. |
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Punchdrunk
Orange Belt
Joined: 19 Aug 2001
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Just like I said Kensai, cool responses. |
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Kensai
Black Belt
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Location: Britain
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. All I say Punch is from the heart, it is what I really believe, if I dont like something I will tell you, if I do, then I will argue it until my dieing breath.
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Venezolano
Green Belt
Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 357
Location: Venezuela
Styles: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, TKD, Karate.
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2002 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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I like Aikido as an art, it's very cool, but i'd not take it to learn self-defense.
it takes too many time for dominate a technique, and all its moves, are very unrealistics.
However, i've seen some Aikido's demostration, and it's very impressive _________________ Valencia - Venezuela. |
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Kensai
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Location: Britain
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Unrealistic?
Thats your opiniuon. I respect that. I agree it takes time to master. But whats worth doing if it is easy. I have found the techniques to be more than easy to apply, but you must use Ki, not strength. Thats that main thing.
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Venezolano
Green Belt
Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 357
Location: Venezuela
Styles: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, TKD, Karate.
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, i think it's unrealistic because the techniques come from attacks that in a real fight never would happen.
I don't know if when you are advanced they teach you techniques for realistic moves, but what i have seen, it's not.
that's my opinion _________________ Valencia - Venezuela. |
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Kensai
Black Belt
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Location: Britain
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps you should go to an Aikido dojo, learn for a year or two then come back and we can talk.
The point of these attacks in Aikido, is that it covers the whole sphere, if you can do something against ANYTHING that enters the sphere, then you are ready for any attack.
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