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karate_woman
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 863
Location: Ontario Canada
Styles: Kickboxing,Okinawan Goju Ryu Karate, Judo, JuJitsu,T'ai Chi, QiGong
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| broomhilda000 wrote: |
| What does a black belt mean these days? That you have memorized some patterns and kata? Done 1vs1 at slow motion speed? |
Not to some of us, which is why seeing a 3.5 year old getting a black belt and a 6 year old getting a 3rd degree black belt is a joke.
A MA that contains kata should have a lot more to it than memorizing kata - doing the kata and understanding the kata are totally different concepts; a dancer can probably learn a kata very well, but unless they'd been taught everything else that goes along with it, and been given the time to explore it for themselves, it will be little more than a fighting dance to them.
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Fenris-wolf
Green Belt
Joined: 08 Jun 2003
Posts: 381
Location: New Zealand
Styles: Muay Thai
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| karate_woman wrote: |
| A MA that contains kata should have a lot more to it than memorizing kata - doing the kata and understanding the kata are totally different concepts; a dancer can probably learn a kata very well, but unless they'd been taught everything else that goes along with it, and been given the time to explore it for themselves, it will be little more than a fighting dance to them. |
I completely agree Karate Woman, but over and above that, how many 3 1/2 year olds do you know with the attention span to memorise that many katas in the first place?? This is beyond weird... 
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karate_woman
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 863
Location: Ontario Canada
Styles: Kickboxing,Okinawan Goju Ryu Karate, Judo, JuJitsu,T'ai Chi, QiGong
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| karate_woman wrote: |
| A MA that contains kata should have a lot more to it than memorizing kata - doing the kata and understanding the kata are totally different concepts; a dancer can probably learn a kata very well, but unless they'd been taught everything else that goes along with it, and been given the time to explore it for themselves, it will be little more than a fighting dance to them. |
I completely agree Karate Woman, but over and above that, how many 3 1/2 year olds do you know with the attention span to memorise that many katas in the first place?? This is beyond weird... |
True, true.
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granmasterchen
Black Belt
Joined: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 1027
Location: japan
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i need to go smack these people, last time i checked i had to WORK for my black belt, this is just a terrible terrible thing, i thought it was getting bad before, but thanks kirves, maybe i will go to this school and get another black belt, or maybe i can just give one of the kids some candy and they will give me a belt too, i bet i could learn alot from these young masters........someone put a bullet in my head
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