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CDraper
Yellow Belt
Joined: 24 Dec 2013
Posts: 70
Location: NC, USA
Styles: Isshin Ryu
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| If you get a chance to go to one of Sensei Advincula's seminars, he typically goes over chinkuchi and gamaku concepts. |
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Wastelander
KF Sensei
Joined: 18 Oct 2010
Posts: 2734
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Styles: Shorin-Ryu, Shuri-Ryu, Judo, KishimotoDi
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| This is a cool explanation of a concept I had not heard of. What do you consider Kime to be, then? Is that merely focus? |
The word "kime" comes from "kimeru," which is "to decide" or "to succeed," which is more of a mental concept than a physical one. In martial arts, though, it tends to be used to refer to the lock-down of the body at the end of a strike. From my perspective, this is a matter of stopping the strike in the air, when it doesn't have a target to absorb the impact. Doing it when you actually hit things tends to reduce your power, because it is done to rapidly decelerate and stop the strike. Chinkuchi is more about the structure and alignment than stopping the technique, although a locking down of muscles is sometimes done to check chinkuchi.
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MatsuShinshii
Black Belt
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
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Location: Kentucky
Styles: Machimura Suidi Rokudan, Ryukyu Kenpo, Kobudo, Judo
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Kime and Chinkuchi differ. But what about Shishee and Chinkuchi?
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Wastelander
KF Sensei
Joined: 18 Oct 2010
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Location: Phoenix, AZ
Styles: Shorin-Ryu, Shuri-Ryu, Judo, KishimotoDi
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| MatsuShinshii wrote: |
| Kime and Chinkuchi differ. But what about Shishee and Chinkuchi? |
Shishee is accomplished most efficiently by using chinkuchi. You can have one without the other, but chinkuchi will allow you to deliver your force as efficiently as possible.
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MatsuShinshii
Black Belt
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1423
Location: Kentucky
Styles: Machimura Suidi Rokudan, Ryukyu Kenpo, Kobudo, Judo
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Wastelander wrote: |
| MatsuShinshii wrote: |
| Kime and Chinkuchi differ. But what about Shishee and Chinkuchi? |
Shishee is accomplished most efficiently by using chinkuchi. You can have one without the other, but chinkuchi will allow you to deliver your force as efficiently as possible. |
You have a very good grasp of the art Wastelander. It was a bit of a tricky question but you are spot on.
I appreciate your explanation.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| This is a cool explanation of a concept I had not heard of. What do you consider Kime to be, then? Is that merely focus? |
The word "kime" comes from "kimeru," which is "to decide" or "to succeed," which is more of a mental concept than a physical one. In martial arts, though, it tends to be used to refer to the lock-down of the body at the end of a strike. From my perspective, this is a matter of stopping the strike in the air, when it doesn't have a target to absorb the impact. Doing it when you actually hit things tends to reduce your power, because it is done to rapidly decelerate and stop the strike. Chinkuchi is more about the structure and alignment than stopping the technique, although a locking down of muscles is sometimes done to check chinkuchi. |
Ok, that helps out some. Thanks for the explanation.
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