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BagelFighter
White Belt
Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Posts: 5
Styles: Kick boxing, Kuk Sool Won, Brazilian jiu jitsu
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 Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 8:44 pm Post subject: hmm |
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| well, being a bjj person myself, i would say the best thing to do to counter is (with timing and precision) knee the crap out of thier face. Thats always been my #1 concern. Muy thai, kickboxing, just use the knee. This is one of many, so dont go all crazy on me. Sprawling by the by, is kickin your legs back....but if you dont know any grappling, it wont do you much good considering you dont know where to go from there..... |
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ZR440
Black Belt
Joined: 04 Nov 2001
Posts: 1597
Location: Michigan
Styles: Filipino
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 9:08 am Post subject: |
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How about running like the wind?
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WolverineGuy
Red Belt
Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Posts: 753
Location: Flint, MI
Styles: Kalkinodo, San Chin Ryu, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo
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Well, if they can't catch you, they can't take you down... 
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1st Dan - Kalkinodo
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wrestlingkaratechamp
Brown Belt
Joined: 22 Mar 2003
Posts: 663
Location: Brooklyn
Styles: Brown belt shotkan karate/black belt 1st dan BJJ(8 years) high school wrestling champion
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| If I knew that I was going to go down on the ground I would let him fall on me and put his neck in a gueotine choke lock as hard as I could. |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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| well if he is good a BJJ then he should know how to counter a Guillotine..but i agree that I would proabaly attempt one if i got ahold of him. |
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SevenStar
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 12:20 am Post subject: |
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"learn bjj..it's the only way your going to beat"
I disagree, I think BJJers although Amazing fighters, have a limited stand up game. So, I think may of them would want you on the ground. So if you take that into consideration, then I would prepare lots of evasions against such attacks.
Also, although BJJ is great at ground work, I think Judo and Wrestling have a very good ground game and so learning bjj is not the only answer. |
Judo is great, but tends to limit groundwork, depending on the school you are at. From what I've experienced though, the avg bjjer would kill the avg judoka on the ground. |
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SevenStar
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Umm, DONT GO THE THE GROUND! 
I would say sprawl. Or take a natural posture like the basic Aikido stance. 60% weight on the back leg, then pivit out the way, and take a throw or pin. However, its not as easy as it sounds. |
ALOT harder than it sounds, unless you've got some distance on him, in which case, his timing was probably off in the first place. also, he may still have the chance to switch to a single leg, a pick or some other takedown. |
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Dekan
Yellow Belt
Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Posts: 57
Location: Ohio
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 7:38 am Post subject: cross train, cross train, cross train |
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One of the previous posts said the best defense against BJJ is a good kicking approach to damage your opponent before he can get a hold of you. Someone else stated a kneeing approach.
IMO, the best is to cross train in the basic types of MA
- striking/kicking/blocking
- throwing
- grappling
- locking
You REALLY need to cross train in all of the above, regardless of the style you are in. If you lack any of the above list, then you are somewhat vulnerable to that technique. |
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Kyle-san
Brown Belt
Joined: 09 Sep 2002
Posts: 735
Location: Brandon, Manitoba
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: cross train, cross train, cross train |
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| Dekan wrote: |
- striking/kicking/blocking
- throwing
- grappling
- locking
You REALLY need to cross train in all of the above, regardless of the style you are in. If you lack any of the above list, then you are somewhat vulnerable to that technique. |
Good thing the Jujutsu style I'm in covers all of these quite thoroughly.
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1ONEfighting
Orange Belt
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 206
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Styles: A pinch of this, a dash of that.
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For all of you dyed in the wool strikers, I recommend learning just enough grappling and defense to allow you to be comfortable throwing your techniques.
If you hold back out of fear of the takedown, you may as well lie down for them.
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on the post.
