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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2001 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know some groups learn Heian shodan as their first kata and some groups start with other katas. Which did you learn first?

:???:Or, do the adults start with one kata and the kids class with another kata?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pinan Nidan, Pinan Sandan, Pinan Shodan, Pinan Yondan, Pinan Godan. Pinan is like Heian, except Pinan is a city in China!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Karateka, I appreciate your response. I am extremely interested in how different people and different groups do things.

Some groups that work with a lot of younger children have inserted katas even before the Taikyoku's.

And yes most Okinawan styles call the same katas Pinan as Japanese styles call them Heians. And sometimes the order of the first and second katas is different.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2001 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my previous club (when I was a youthful 6 year old) we started with Taikyoku Shodan.

At my current club, we do the same kata, but call it Kihon Kata

I' ve never learnt Taikyoku Nidan, Sandan, Yondan, Godan or Rokudan

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2001 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tobias we learned the first 2 under the name Fyukyu. And I have seen them under the names ten no and chi no as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2001 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We start with the Taikyokyu kata we have 6 of the basic kata the first 3 i belve are the same as the ones Funokoshi created . we then follow those with Tenno (fukigata ichi ) and Chino (fukigata ni , gekisai dia ichi ) . then we start with the pinans and you are correct the first 2 pinans and heians are switched ie... pinanshodan is heian nidan and pinan nidan is heian shodan ....

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2002 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our school teaches Taikyoku to adults and students after they get their first grade. After that its the 5 Heians, Tekki Shodan, Hangetsu and Bassai Dai for Shodan grading

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2002 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in our dojo ( Gojo Ryu) we are taught the taikyoko ( jodan, chudan, gedan) first, as they involve the basic stances, blocks and punches which are vital for a beginner to learn.....
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were taught taikyoku shodan first. After that we got to the pinan (heian) series without doing taikyoku nidan or the others. Guess it would have been a waste of time
In our dojo we start at the 10th kyu level wearing the white belt, but having to earn it. Thus the 9th kyu has still a white belt
For the exam to the white belt to the other white belt (with a superir rank though) we have to perform taikyoku shodan.
Afterwards the heians.
For myself it was OK, because heian shodan is a little more difficult and knowink taikyoku shodan was helful. I remember I had some problems with tettsui
Hope I've helped a little here
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my dojo we learn taikyoku gedan then chudan and jodan just like moo.
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