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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16430
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:04 pm Post subject: In The Hands Of The Unskilled |
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Martial arts weapons are often deadly in the hands of an expert but are more dangerous when handled by a novice; to both the innocent by-standers and MA weapon wielder.
Having taught kobudo for over 4 decades, I've learned one undeniable truth concerning MA weapons in general, as well as concerning kobudo students; a life can be changed in just seconds, both for the good as well as the bad.
Those who are unskilled/novices of MA weapons are their worse enemy because striking another person will prove to be much more difficult than striking yourself by accident, which of course, is much more easier to do and much more often.
Imho, the legal ramifications multiply expeditiously because they're more likely to injure by-standers than themselves by just playing with any MA weapon. Having said that, MA weapons are very dangerous in the hands of a skilled kobudo expert, but MA weapons are even more dangerous to the unskilled. Injury suits over MA weapons can have no good outcome for the unskilled in a court of law; injury is injury, no matter intent.
Then there's the other legalities; MA weapons that ARE legal. Well, there's not to many, if any, MA weapons that are legal to carry around on your person and/or in your car. If a LEO finds a MA weapon on you or in your car, you better be to or from a MA school and you better be prepared to prove it. If you can't prove anything...you're going to jail at the discretion of a sworn LEO. His/her badge has more power than your quick wit and guile.
Novices don't have the same respect for the MA weapon(s) as a skilled/expert would, and that's mainly because the novice thinks that MA weapons are toys...NO WEAPON IS A TOY!! It's a very dangerous thing and it needs to be treated with the utmost respect, otherwise one can by seriously injured/maimed or killed. Even the kobudo expert, must respect the MA weapon; getting cocky and sure of oneself can do just as much harm as the novice is capable of.
Remember...only a second separates one from awe/appreciation to deadly consequences. The MA weapon isn't a respecter of person(s); it passes its judgement without pause/cause!!
Please respect the weapon, seek a qualified instructor, and keep all weapons locked up for safety. Train seriously because a MA weapon is a serious thing!!
Having said that...I'd rather depend on my hands/feet over any MA weapon, even though kobudo is a big part of Shindokan.
_________________ **Proof is on the floor!!!
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ShoriKid
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Posts: 900
Styles: Matsubyashi-Ryu, Okinawan Kempo, wrestling, bits of BJJ
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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To add on a word of caution to go with Sensei8 here, check your weapons. Pilots do pre-flight walk arounds before they even set foot on their aircraft. Weapons practitioners should do their own pre-training checks on the tools of their trade. Check for lose fittings, frayed ropes, gaps in chains, cracks in the wood. Any imperfection in the weapon can lead to serious injury of yourself or those around you.
I've seen nunchaku separate and go flying toward someone after a snapping strike. I've personally had a bo break in my hands after a strike and was cut by the broken end. It could have been very bad if the cuts had been an inch or two back. Just a minor imperfection in the wood was the cause. So check your weapons before you practice. It could save you a lot of pain and trouble. _________________ Kisshu fushin, Oni te hotoke kokoro. A demon's hand, a saint's heart. -- Osensei Shoshin Nagamine |
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yamesu
Black Belt
Joined: 13 Jul 2004
Posts: 1391
Location: Oceania <-> Asia
Styles: Kyokushin. MT. Arnis. Judo. JediMantre.
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Both solid posts above!
I think that his carries over to most asects of the MA.
The more skilled a person is, the more likely they are to display discretion in actually causing harm to another person. I put is as "the more you learn about violence, the less you want to be part of it".
When it comes to weapons, I have injured myself more times with chucks and san-setsu-kon than I have been injured by others in kobudo.... _________________ "We did not inherit this earth from our parents.
We are borrowing it from our children." |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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I think the beginners are always the more care-free and dangerous in just about any task. They get excited about what they are learning, do lots of practice, then start to play around more, leading to a chance for injury. In times, this cools, like with anything, but its important for weapons to be reigned in.
Perhaps the best thing a Kobudo instructor can do is keep the weapons at the school, and only allow for practice with them at the school. _________________ www.haysgym.com
http://www.sunyis.com/
www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com |
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Harkon72
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
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Location: Wales
Styles: Okinawan Karate, Aikido, Ninpo.
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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I know the sting of a mis-timed nunchaku very well. It's a good tool to learn patience and control. _________________ Look to the far mountain and see all. |
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DWx
Black Belt
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 6455
Location: UK
Styles: Tae Kwon Do & Yang family Tai Chi
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:24 am Post subject: |
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Good post sensei8.
TKD is largely empty hand however I can totally see this being the case for beginner kobudo students. Beginner TKD students are the worst to spar or work with because they just haven't developed control over their techniques like more advanced students have. They can't pull a technique if it needs to be pulled, their strikes take unorthodox routes and so are hard to predict and they have no idea about distance or timing or balance. The same things, coupled with a lack of proper respect for a weapon, seems like a dangerous combination. _________________ "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius |
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Harkon72
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
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Location: Wales
Styles: Okinawan Karate, Aikido, Ninpo.
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, the Beginners are always the ones to watch out for in contact. They can hurt you if you are not careful. I always remember being lifted off the floor by my neck after showing a green belt a naked strangle! Be careful out there guys! _________________ Look to the far mountain and see all. |
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Kusotare
Purple Belt
Joined: 02 Feb 2013
Posts: 574
Styles: Traditional Japanese Karate, Koryu Bujutsu (Jujutsu, Iaido and Kenjutsu)
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:56 am Post subject: |
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My group often perform embu (displays) in public and we use shinken!
It is vital that you know your weapon is safe to use.
For example, the blade of the sword is secured to the handle with just 2 wooden pins (Mekugi). Through use and sweat from your hands these decompose and can result in the blade flying out from the handle.
Wooden weapons are equally dangerous if not cared for properly.
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Bryan Sensei
White Belt
Joined: 18 Aug 2013
Posts: 11
Location: The United States
Styles: Shorin-ryu ,Kobudo,Aikido,Jujitsu
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Traditional wooden Kobudo weapons always should be checked before beinging a training session.And should be retired after 2 years of hard training anyway to ensure no accidents or injurys happens.Safety is the best policy in enjoying many good years of training,and maintaining a school up and running due to the sue crazy world we have now days. _________________ There's no such word as can't. |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16430
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Bryan Sensei wrote: |
Traditional wooden Kobudo weapons always should be checked before beinging a training session.And should be retired after 2 years of hard training anyway to ensure no accidents or injurys happens.Safety is the best policy in enjoying many good years of training,and maintaining a school up and running due to the sue crazy world we have now days. |
Solid post!!
_________________ **Proof is on the floor!!! |
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