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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16251
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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 Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Karate as a official College curriculum |
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| Can confirm, as a deputy for 13 plus years, and being employed with a sheriff's department for 16+ years, there isn't much need for a criminal justice degree. I especially despise learning how to be a cop by someone who's never been a cop, and that's the big problem with the criminal justice studies departments in colleges; they are taught by teachers who have never worked in law enforcement, but have all kinds of theories and ideas about how to be better cops. All theory with no experience behind it. |
That's exactly it...especially the bold type above!!
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KarateKen
Orange Belt
Joined: 12 Nov 2021
Posts: 206
Location: Dojo
Styles: Karate
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I have never heard of a degree in marital arts, but many schools offer some training as a form of college credit. I took a semester of Jujitsu in college, and it was taught be a police officer who was a 4th degree. I've seen Judo, Taekwondo, Akido, and Tai Chi (took a semester of this also), as well as women's self-defense classes offered at universities for credit. |
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DarthPenguin
Brown Belt
Joined: 03 Dec 2021
Posts: 726
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Styles: Shotokan, Judo, BJJ
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| I have never heard of a degree in marital arts, but many schools offer some training as a form of college credit. I took a semester of Jujitsu in college, and it was taught be a police officer who was a 4th degree. I've seen Judo, Taekwondo, Akido, and Tai Chi (took a semester of this also), as well as women's self-defense classes offered at universities for credit. |
Is this not quite risky though - a semester of varying arts is just enough for a lot of people to become a danger to themselves - erroneously believing they 'can fight' and getting into situations that they shouldn't? |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30008
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| DarthPenguin wrote: |
| KarateKen wrote: |
| I have never heard of a degree in marital arts, but many schools offer some training as a form of college credit. I took a semester of Jujitsu in college, and it was taught be a police officer who was a 4th degree. I've seen Judo, Taekwondo, Akido, and Tai Chi (took a semester of this also), as well as women's self-defense classes offered at universities for credit. |
Is this not quite risky though - a semester of varying arts is just enough for a lot of people to become a danger to themselves - erroneously believing they 'can fight' and getting into situations that they shouldn't? |
It's the instructor's job to hopefully explain this to the students. Also ideally, there are enough higher ranked students to help with the class that let's the others know kind of where they stand. In my experience, however, by and large, I don't see people thinking that way. I don't see it any different than a student who attends classes for a few months and then quits of his own accord. There just isn't much you can do about those people.
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KarateKen
Orange Belt
Joined: 12 Nov 2021
Posts: 206
Location: Dojo
Styles: Karate
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| DarthPenguin wrote: |
| KarateKen wrote: |
| I have never heard of a degree in marital arts, but many schools offer some training as a form of college credit. I took a semester of Jujitsu in college, and it was taught be a police officer who was a 4th degree. I've seen Judo, Taekwondo, Akido, and Tai Chi (took a semester of this also), as well as women's self-defense classes offered at universities for credit. |
Is this not quite risky though - a semester of varying arts is just enough for a lot of people to become a danger to themselves - erroneously believing they 'can fight' and getting into situations that they shouldn't? |
I don't know, I guess the same question could be asked of the new yellow belt who is overconfident and thinks he knows more than he does.
I don't see a problem with learning, or trying out, different styles to see what fits the student. Hopefully they have the maturity to not misuse it. |
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DarthPenguin
Brown Belt
Joined: 03 Dec 2021
Posts: 726
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Styles: Shotokan, Judo, BJJ
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| KarateKen wrote: |
| I have never heard of a degree in marital arts, but many schools offer some training as a form of college credit. I took a semester of Jujitsu in college, and it was taught be a police officer who was a 4th degree. I've seen Judo, Taekwondo, Akido, and Tai Chi (took a semester of this also), as well as women's self-defense classes offered at universities for credit. |
Is this not quite risky though - a semester of varying arts is just enough for a lot of people to become a danger to themselves - erroneously believing they 'can fight' and getting into situations that they shouldn't? |
I don't know, I guess the same question could be asked of the new yellow belt who is overconfident and thinks he knows more than he does.
I don't see a problem with learning, or trying out, different styles to see what fits the student. Hopefully they have the maturity to not misuse it. |
Yep it's exactly the same. We used to call it "yellow belt syndrome" in fact!
The difference i suppose is that in a non-semester environment you know that they will be offered more training and can get past it, plus the semester isn't an end point. In a semester course it is natural to view the end of the semester as "the end" and i can see that leading someone to thinking they have learnt all they need as otherwise it wouldn't be a one semester course would it (not that i agree with this mindset!) |
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