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sensei8
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ShoriKid
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Par for the course with the NY legislature it seems.
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bushido_man96
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sensei8
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| Yes. But I think Boxing is still allowed. |
Why do you think it is that way?
Both can be viewed by politicians as violent, and since they make the laws; impressing them just isn't that easy.
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ShoriKid
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Boxing, around the turn of the last century, wasn't legal either. Bare knuckle was on the way out and gloves and safety rules, with the buy in of upper class backing gyms and fighters brought it into the spot light. Legality only came when there was a way for people to see a clear way to make money and the ends of the Victorian era helped it along the way. MMA suffers from a thug aura perpetuated by those who don't like it for one reason or another. And, there are plenty of old heads in the boxing community have a hate on for MMA and see it as a threat. Thus, they do everything they can to keep it out of the state right now.
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sensei8
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| ShoriKid wrote: |
| Boxing, around the turn of the last century, wasn't legal either. Bare knuckle was on the way out and gloves and safety rules, with the buy in of upper class backing gyms and fighters brought it into the spot light. Legality only came when there was a way for people to see a clear way to make money and the ends of the Victorian era helped it along the way. MMA suffers from a thug aura perpetuated by those who don't like it for one reason or another. And, there are plenty of old heads in the boxing community have a hate on for MMA and see it as a threat. Thus, they do everything they can to keep it out of the state right now. |
Solid post!!
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ps1
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This has been going on for years. NY isn't seeing the bigger picture. If they were smart, like my state of Ohio, they would legalize it and then regulate the heck out of it. There's a state commission, fighter registration and everything. The state makes money on it. Even the referees have to be state certified.
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sensei8
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| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| ps1 wrote: |
| This has been going on for years. NY isn't seeing the bigger picture. If they were smart, like my state of Ohio, they would legalize it and then regulate the heck out of it. There's a state commission, fighter registration and everything. The state makes money on it. Even the referees have to be state certified. |
Maybe Ohio's crime rate isn't as high as it is in NY; that's if crime stats are a considering factor in their decision(s).
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ShoriKid
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| ps1 wrote: |
| This has been going on for years. NY isn't seeing the bigger picture. If they were smart, like my state of Ohio, they would legalize it and then regulate the heck out of it. There's a state commission, fighter registration and everything. The state makes money on it. Even the referees have to be state certified. |
Maybe Ohio's crime rate isn't as high as it is in NY; that's if crime stats are a considering factor in their decision(s).
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Given NYS rep on taxing things to death I'm surprised that the revenue side hasn't caused it.to pass any way.
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sensei8
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| sensei8 wrote: |
| ps1 wrote: |
| This has been going on for years. NY isn't seeing the bigger picture. If they were smart, like my state of Ohio, they would legalize it and then regulate the heck out of it. There's a state commission, fighter registration and everything. The state makes money on it. Even the referees have to be state certified. |
Maybe Ohio's crime rate isn't as high as it is in NY; that's if crime stats are a considering factor in their decision(s).
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Given NYS rep on taxing things to death I'm surprised that the revenue side hasn't caused it.to pass any way. |
Great point!!
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on the post.
