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islandman
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: pyung ahn cho dan hyung for tang soo do Reply with quote

I had a question about this form. On the first line, after the second lower block, is it a backfist or a hammer punch? I have to know. Some people told me hammer and others told me back fist.
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islandman
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry. the title should be

pyung ahn cho dan for tang soo do OR tae kwon do
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hammer punch or back fist hmm i would guess the Back fist but im not sure...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My TSD dojang did it as a hammer fist. But it varies from dojang to dojang. I've seen it done both ways at tournies.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TSD= back fist

Shito Ryu= Hammer fist\block

I like the Shito Ryu application best. Considering that GM KEE "learned the form from a book" he may have just chosen to make it a back fist.

Shito Ryu teachs it as a hammer fist. As you advance you see alternative application as being a downward block, then a perry block (the technique in question), then a foward punch.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Pyong Ahn Chodan question Reply with quote

The TSD source I have says hammerfist strike.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ill agree with bushidos answer (mostly becuase hes right alot (except about flying) )
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamasandSais wrote:
ill agree with bushidos answer (mostly becuase hes right alot (except about flying) )


Did you try it yet? Then how do you know I am wrong?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my school we do a low backfist and then bring our front foot to our back foot and then hammer fist, then step and punch. But yeah, just like anything else, it varies from school to school.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks.

i just ordered this book and it was a hammer punch.
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