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Should Christians do MA
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Yes, they are great! |
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No, they can be a stumbling block. |
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angelica d
Orange Belt
Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Posts: 244
Location: York
Styles: Shotokan
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Going back to the original question, I don't see why not. IMHO, anything becomes a religion if you let it take over your life, including MAs. If your religion is your prioeity in life then there is no harm in practising a MA. I guess ppl see the problem as being that if you learn a martial art you are going to use it in the street and pick fights. This is definitely not the case for me and most of my fellow karate students, so there is no conflict with Christian teachings. I do karate because its a beautiful and elegant art, it gives me confidence, keeps me fit, and would be useful if I ever needed to defend myself. I don't believe that if ppl are Christians they should 'turn the other cheek' so to say. Christianity teaches you to respect yourself as well as others, and that includes defending yourself if necessary.
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KoreanTiger30
Orange Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 112
Location: Baltimore, MD
Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Haedong Gumdo, Kyuk Too Ki, and any Korean Styles I learn from training with others
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i ahve been teaching martial arts and I have two students who come form strict Catholic backgrounds.. This comment is in no way offense towards Catholics.but however I find myslef getting into arguments with their mother alot because she says meditation is Satan's work drawing worship away from the lord and that ki engergy and and the devotion to channelig ki is a voodoo concept..lol I explain to her that think of ki engergy as the holy ghost's power withing them and they are finding way sof harnassing that power and concentrating on their techniques. She has a misconceived notion that i am having them pray to Buddha but however this is just another example of ethnocentric attitude in our culture
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KoreanTiger30
Orange Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 112
Location: Baltimore, MD
Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Haedong Gumdo, Kyuk Too Ki, and any Korean Styles I learn from training with others
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i ahve been teaching martial arts and I have two students who come form strict Catholic backgrounds.. This comment is in no way offense towards Catholics.but however I find myslef getting into arguments with their mother alot because she says meditation is Satan's work drawing worship away from the lord and that ki engergy and and the devotion to channelig ki is a voodoo concept..lol I explain to her that think of ki engergy as the holy ghost's power withing them and they are finding way sof harnassing that power and concentrating on their techniques. She has a misconceived notion that i am having them pray to Buddha but however this is just another example of ethnocentric attitude in our culture
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stl_karateka
Brown Belt
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
Posts: 645
Location: O'fallon IL
Styles: Shorin Ryu & Isshin Ryu
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I'm a Christian and there are certain schools/styles/practices that I wont partipate in...I say this to say if that mother thinks it is wrong, she has the option of training elsewhere....I don't see the point in arguing.
I wouldn't use the ki/holy ghost analogy though---I can't imagine that goes over too well.
Not ethnocentric....perhaps misinformed.
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TLynn03
White Belt
Joined: 28 Aug 2003
Posts: 20
Location: Logan, wv
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Ill just add what I heard from a teacher in sunday school
you get hit on one side so you turn the other cheek...If they hit that one too you have no other cheeks to turn lol
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Spookey
Yellow Belt
Joined: 21 Jan 2004
Posts: 79
Location: Southeastern USA
Styles: Taekwon-Do (Oh Do Kwan)
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" Trust in the Lord with ALL thine heart lean not on thy own understanding; in all thy ways acknowledge him and he shall direct thy path"
"Fear the lord thy God"
and to the fellow that stated that God only destroyed things in the Old Testament...read REVOLATIONS...the whole world is destroyed!
Furthermore, Ki, Chi, Quai gong, what have you...it is a physical energy posest by the human body. God gave me this energy to keep my heart beating!
Life force is not voo-doo and is not the Holy Ghost;however, meditation can be a time of prayer!
TAEKWON
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KoreanTiger30
Orange Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 112
Location: Baltimore, MD
Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Haedong Gumdo, Kyuk Too Ki, and any Korean Styles I learn from training with others
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IM SORRY IF MY HOLY GHOST ANALOGY OFFENDED ANYONE BUT IT ACTUALLY DOES GO OVER WELL. I TRY NOT TO ARGUE AND NEVER GET INTO ARGUMENTS BECAUSE I HATE TURNING IT INTO A RELIGIOUS ARGUMENT. MY VIEWS ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM CHRISTIAN BELIEFS SO ITS HARD TO REALTE TO THEIR IDEOLOGY BUT I TRY TO MAKE IT RELATE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT NOT SAY IT IS THE HOLY GHOST.
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aefibird
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2003
Posts: 4416
Location: UK
Styles: Past and present: 2 styles of Karate, TKD, Aikido, Wing Chun, some Tai Chi
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Korean Tiger, if your Holy Ghost analogy is helpful in explaining to other people about Ki/Chi/Internal Energy/whatever people want to call it then I see no reason not to use it.
One thing that shouldn't be used is all capitals when writing in the forums... It looks like you're shouting and that can offend some people. Thanks.
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ramymensa
Black Belt
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Posts: 1450
Location: New Jersey
Styles: Shotokan
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I'm also a Christian (orthodox), but I never felt MA training would hinder my spiritual pursuit 
Taking MA classes is a personal choise. Do you think it's OK? Go for it. Not? Don't take the classes. But once you've done it obey their rules (there are many who think they shouldn't bow to the others and so on). If it's not OK with you, leave or obey, don't try to change the system just tp suit you (there've been some ideas )
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karate4Christ
White Belt
Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Posts: 23
Location: N.C.
Styles: karate
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Of course Christians can do martial arts. I am a Christian and my martial arts training is helping to further my faith. It is also helping me to develop character traits such as discipline and respect that are essential to Christian living. I am not sure how I feel about chi or zen or meditation,but I do know that martial arts can be as powerful a tool for Christ as it can be against Him. I would like to hear from some of you fellow Christians on board here how you interpret zen.
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