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winterkarate
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2001 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

right ive got a competition coming up and im a little bothered because i dont get a lot of sparring training, which is what im really interested in. but my sensei is starting to help with this now. so my question is, what techniues can you offer that will work in competition fighting? now i dont want to be told body evasion or kizame zuki, gyaka zuki because i know these work. i want people who know how to fight to give me ideas and moves that are gonna score me points! thanks to anyone that could be bothered to read this and help me.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2001 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a fighting club, go join Andy Cusak - I'm sure he'll help you.

We aint a sparring club.

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winterkarate
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2001 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

correction you dont like sparring that dont mean we aint a sparring club. FOOL!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2001 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you thought about leading leg kicks? I have found that these are quite effective against your smaller opponent.Also they cannot react as quick as they can to a back leg kick.This is what makes the technique rather a favourite of mine.Hope this helps

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winterkarate
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2001 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx moo! and to tobias my last comment was harsh but i wont apologise because we're a shotokan club and part of shotokan is the fighting side. so to say we are not a fighting club is a lie. as you'll know from your grading.
and youll find that more students at the clubs like fighting than those that dont. and some of the ones that dont were influenced by certain senseis giving fighting a bad name coz they dont like it. and i really hope that you telling me to go to andt kusack was just friendly advice tobias.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2001 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make them think high, then go low. If you know they always gyaku, than make them gyaku and then move to their side and score with a head kick or whatever. Keep bouncing, use the entire ring to your advantage.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2001 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx now this is use ful stuff. ill be able to use this.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2001 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try not only evasion, but evasion+uraken! You will se what I mean, try it on the bag at bramley, get somebody to push it towards you and then give it a go!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2001 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WinterKarate

Gichin Funikoshi didn't believe in sparring (notice I say sparring, not fighting).

John Van Weedan only believe that sparring should be left to black belts an above.

Shotokan isn't a sparring style - why do you think we do everything in deep stances

Shotokan bases its combat on the "one-hit ends the fight" idea. This doesn't sound very much like sparring, now does it?

But if you want to do sparring thats fine - just don't complain when you fail your grading (thats another point - why dont you have to spar for grading?)

It may be better for you to join a more rounded club such as Andy Cusik - he's a good fighter. I would teach sparring, but all the way up to 1st Kyu I didn't spar once (and our chief instructor was a kickboxing champion - so he must have thought that karate wasn't about sparring)

It was friendly advice Steven, its just that if you prefer fighting then maybe you should go somewhere where you can be taught it properly.

Its works both ways - go and ask certain black belts to perform Heian Shodan and they'll look at you stupid.

I dont wanna lose our friendship over it Steven

C ya

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2001 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello winterkarate

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