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UseoForce
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Posts: 938
Styles: Combat Hapkido, MMA/BJJ, Various others
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I wouldn't say kempo is undiscovered, seeing as the light heavyweight champ is a 4th degree BB in it.
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BLueDevil
Blue Belt
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 300
Location: Amarillo, TX
Styles: American Kempo, Hung Gar, BJJ, muay Thai, just began Ryu Te
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Sure Chuck trains in kempo and frank mir is a black belt in american kempo but 2 fighters out of a whole roster is a pretty weak base to stand on when talking in terms of comparison to BJJ or Muay Thai or even wrestling. I would lok to see kempo concepts in action more in the octagon
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elbows_and_knees
Black Belt
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 1795
Styles: thai boxing, grappling
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| catch has been brought up for years on the mma scene... I think the biggest problem is availability. |
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SubGrappler
Green Belt
Joined: 19 Jun 2005
Posts: 439
Location: New Jersey
Styles: Submission Wrestling
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Abu Dhabi has helped submission grappling grow in leaps and bounds over the past couple of years, so much more than the past thousand years have done in fact.
Submission wrestling is starting to blend all aspects from all different types of grappling arts. People are no longer "BJJ" fighters, or "Judo" or "Wrestling."
People are adding anything effective they find from any other style. In fact, the surprising thing at this years Abu Dhabi was how the BJJ fighters were using well executed footlocks, which was considered a rariety.
People are learning how to utilize takedowns, footlocks, and all different kinds of maneuvers. Submission wrestling is incorporating all kinds of techinques now from different styles, and though no one has been labeled a "catch wrestler" in Abu Dhabi, I find it hard to believe they would bring anything new to the table (not that they havent contributed already). |
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UseoForce
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Posts: 938
Styles: Combat Hapkido, MMA/BJJ, Various others
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That is very true.
However, my first hand expierience with catch is that there is just a much greater VARIETY of submissions than any other grappling art I've seen. Of course, by now, it probably has BJJ, JJJ, and sambo influence too.
BTW, does Abu Dhabi allow wristlocks?
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Goju_boi
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Joined: 28 Mar 2005
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Location: Houston , Texas
Styles: Goju ryu , Kobudo , and just started Capoeira
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I think pankration should be in the ufc.Pankration is pretty much mixed martial arts.
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UseoForce
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Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Posts: 938
Styles: Combat Hapkido, MMA/BJJ, Various others
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:43 am Post subject: |
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When you say pankration, are you referring to the Jim Arvantis kind (historical) or the modern kind?
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Goju_boi
Black Belt
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Location: Houston , Texas
Styles: Goju ryu , Kobudo , and just started Capoeira
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| When you say pankration, are you referring to the Jim Arvantis kind (historical) or the modern kind? |
hmm,good question.Well I guess both,but the modern is more for sport.So I guess the modern is better for UFC.
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SubGrappler
Green Belt
Joined: 19 Jun 2005
Posts: 439
Location: New Jersey
Styles: Submission Wrestling
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| UseoForce wrote: |
That is very true.
However, my first hand expierience with catch is that there is just a much greater VARIETY of submissions than any other grappling art I've seen. Of course, by now, it probably has BJJ, JJJ, and sambo influence too.
BTW, does Abu Dhabi allow wristlocks? |
Yes, Abu Dhabi allows wristlocks.
No, I dont believe that catch has a greater variety of submissions, they simply like to attack whatever is near them, which happens to be feet alot of the time. There are only so many ways to choke a guy out or dislocate his arm in so many positions. |
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UseoForce
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lol very true. I wish the UFC allowed wristlocks. Might see a hapkido guy or two:D!
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on the post.
