UFC vs. the Street

Hudson · Green Belt

Please refrain from using phrases like "t3h d34dly str33t" - I don't say it, don't say it to me.

Maybe "childs play" was a bit of an extreme, but my point stays the same - there are rules and regulations in UFC that can't compare to unregulated fighting.

I also don't believe MMA's are the tried and true super effective arts the UFC makes them out to be - there are plenty of traditional arts and students in them that are just as street effective.
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Luckykboxer · Brown Belt

ITs absolutely zero indication on how a street fight would go.

Every single athlete that fights in the UFC has cross trained in multiple martial arts.

IT is no longer, and hasnt been sicne the 1st UFC, a showdown of different arts, but rather a showdown of well trained athletes using all the skill they have learned to outwit and outmatch each other.

I can tell you from experience that a UFC ruled fight, and a no rules fight are quite different.
I have had many fights under both set of rules.

Street Rules are much more brutal , and have no thought towards the longevity of the fighters.

UFC rules are much much more forgiving, and are designed to allow the fighters to last much longer and hopefully develop the sport into the evolution of Boxing that It should be.

Anyone that tells you a person fighting under UFC rules will dominate a pure Street Fighter each using their rules is an ignorant person speaking out.

Now the fact that most UFC fighters are in better physical condition then most street fighters, and most UFC fighters have a longer liftime in the sport then you get an influence that effects teh outcomes.

But I will tell you now, that if you give two men with everything else being equal fighting under UFC rules for one and no rules for the other, I will always bet on the No ruled fighter to win.

Drunken Monkey · Black Belt

winning a ufc match doesn't actually mean you win the fight either.

there was that gracie vs sakaruba where sakauyba as forced to tapped out with a dislocated shoulder or something from an armbar, right?
but...
gracie had to be carted away to hospital.
the other guy could still continue with the fight albeit with a duff shoulder.

(names might be wrong but i think the guys will know it)

did gracie really win the fight?
if it was a street fight, who would be the real winner?
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VinnieDaChin · Orange Belt

although it isnt just like the street- the ufc is a good basic guide for what martial arts to do what (although everyone trains in the same things these days.) a street fight is different than a cage fight, but a cage fight does have enough elements, with few enough rules (have to make it legal in the country, afterall) to sort of mimic it. yea, in a street fight you may face weapons, multiple opponents, etc... and yea, street fights look different. but in street fights there isnt a super trained ufc fighter vs another super trained ufc fighter, its two punks trying to hurt eachother. still, the ufc has proven the effectiveness of certain arts, and, lets face it- anyone that trained in those same arts would probably win a street fight.

Chirath · Orange Belt

UFC is the closest to a real fight. However most street fights involve multiple opponents. So your hardly want to go into groundwork. You want to be able to hit fast and hard and try and leg it if possible. UFC is good for one on one fights. And will get you used to hits. It won't get you 100% prepared for a street fight but will do a pretty good job in preparing yourself.

Gumbi · Blue Belt

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Luckykboxer · Brown Belt

Gumbi you need to recheck your facts.
MMA isnt one or two styles, there are literally parts taken from dozens of different styles, it is truely a blending of the arts.
It is not as you put a showdown of different styles.

Also to use Tank Abbott as you example of a kick * street fighter is laughable.

Tank is a pit fighter, I fought in some of the same "cards" as he did. When he was in his prime, and the last 5 years are two totally different things.
I would laugh at the thought of handling Tank now. As his major weakness is well known, and very easily passed.

Also your assumptions of UFC fights being as brutal as I claim them not to be, well I know many UFC fighters, and with the exception of a very fwe they are none of them bloodthirsty, or wanting to beat people to a pulp.
Even teh loud mouths like Tito Ortiz are pretty much pussycats. There is a big difference between a true no holds barred fighter, and I speak from experience in both arenas.

And yes no holds barred fighers do cross train in different styles.

It appears to me you have a little bit of a starstruck attitude.

There is a huge difference between the two games. Big difference in how they are fought.
You will never see the amount of fights go to the ground in no holds barred, true no rules fighting, as you do in UFC.
No Holds Barred, NO Rules Fighting is the closest thing to real fighting, because it quite simply is real fighting.
Once you start adding rules you start catering to a certain type of fighter, and a certain style that they are trying to market.
Trust me no holds barred fighting would never be successful mainstream today.
UFC style does have an appeal, and does have a chance to become big, maybe even biggger then boxing eventually.

But like the best boxers in the world, they are extremely good in their game, but once you change the game, and take away rules, and allow more various weapons and techniques, they become less efficient and more open to getting beat and bad.

Now like professional boxers the UFC fighters are in exceptional shape, and that in and of itself would win them many fights in the streets against untrained people.

their training is just phenomenal as well, and that would them even more fights against even some who have training. Like that Joke of a fighter David Abbott(Tank).

but when you have a true no holds barred fighter, that has great conditioning and training, I guarantee you the fight will look nothing like a UFC fight. And Even if the UFC fighter wins, it will not even come close to looking like a UFC fight.

Now if you have experience lets hear it, but As i suspect if you are just talking because you own the ultimate UFC collection.... gee wiz so do i /cheers... or PRide, Or any of the other ones out there, then maybe you should lay off of the specal features and actually think about what the rules in the UFC do to change the fights?
you dont think that all those rules are in effect to actually encourage grappling do you?
NAwwwwww
you dont think that the Gracies, who started the UFC in the first place as a marketing campaign, used it as a platform to give themselves the edge over other styles?
Nawwwwww
you dont think that since the first couple UFCs that when fighters cross trained to become more complete fighters that it had anything to do with why the Gracies got out, since they are all undersized, and you dont think that since it is so much less violent then ho rules fighting that it is being accepted more and more, and is actually becoming a reality show do ya?

Hudson · Green Belt

I will agree that the UFC is the closest thing to a real fight you can watch on TV - but it is by no means a true representation of a street fight. It's far, far from it.

A street fight isn't against a guy who will let you tap out, who will only break your arm as a last resort, who won't pull a knife, and in most cases has similar technique to you.

Gumbi, let me ask you a question - what exactly is your experience with "t3h d34dly str33t" as you like to call it?

As for my experience, most of it comes secondhand from war stories from bouncers I know. It's far too violent a life for me.
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