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Sasori_Te
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Joined: 15 Aug 2003
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Location: Near Akron Ohio
Styles: Kempo and Kobudo

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 8:14 am    Post subject: What's wrong with a white belt? Reply with quote

I've been reading various posts about different belt issues. "If I change styles can I keep my rank?" "Can I ask my instructor if I think I'm ready to test for my next belt?" A belt is nothing more than a piece of cloth, a decoration if you will, that let's our instructor know the progress that we've made as well as what we need to be working on next. It's not there to make you feel better about yourself. You shouldn't need a belt for that. It's especially not there to show that you're better than someone else. A belt in the martial arts is only as good as the knowledge and skill of the person wearing it. This is where we as martial artists should put our emphasis, gaining more knowledge and skill so that at a later time we can pass it on to honor and repay in some small way the martial arts practitioners that came before us. There is no place for ego or arrogance in true martial arts. They get in the way of learning how to keep yourself alive which is the basic purpose of a true martial art.
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*mArTiAl_GiRl*
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Joined: 16 Mar 2003
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Location: Tallinn, Estonia
Styles: Karate, Wu Shu(Kung-Fu), Tai Chi, Hapkido

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea! Exactly! That's right! I mean, I can wear a pink belt if I want, does it make any sense? Belt doesn't show how 'great' you are or that you're a 'serious karateka', belts are just used to make karatekas strain more for good knowledge about karate, to know at least 'something' about martial arts history, respect, katas, kumite etc since you started as a white belt.
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IAMA_chick
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Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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Location: Indiana
Styles: tae kwon do

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is a good point. but some people feel like they have worked hard and deserve a higher belt than a white belt due to their knowlage in another style.
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Location: Tallinn, Estonia
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm...Most true...
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Sasori_Te
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Joined: 15 Aug 2003
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Styles: Kempo and Kobudo

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My point being that your knowledge of another style doesn't have anything to do with stepping into a brand new style. It's not the same philosophy at the very least and probably not the same exact techniques. I'm not saying that you can't get promoted along a little quicker (MAYBE) because of your prior training, but upon initial entry you ARE a white belt in that new style knowledge wise. It doesn't matter if you're a yellow belt or a 10th degree black belt in your old style. Except maybe that a 10th degree black belt would care less about the belt than the knowledge. Perhaps some emotional growth is needed here. Here's yet another way to look at it. If you were a doctor specializing in heart surgery and you decided that you wanted to be a brain surgeon would you just expect that they should let you start doing brain surgery just because you spent the same amount of time in school as a brain surgeon?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just ordered my rambo belt. Its cool.
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gheinisch
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Joined: 09 Jan 2003
Posts: 2140
Location: Newnan, Georgia
Styles: Hon-Shin-Do - Shodan

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A student in our class recently asked our Hanshi about promotions and was told not to get wrapped up in thinking about the next belt. Ones attention and focus should be learning the art not the next color. He said when we are ready he will test us. Anyone can have a black belt for $6 in about 3 days but it doesn't make you a black belt. It must be earned through blood, sweat and tears for it to have any meaning. IMHO
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Pacificshore
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Joined: 26 Mar 2002
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Location: West Coast
Styles: Chinese Kenpo/Kara-Ho Kempo

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with a white belt...I had one long time ago
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Karateka_latino
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Joined: 21 Jun 2001
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Location: Panama city, Panama
Styles: Goju-Ryu Karate do; Kung Fu.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im planning to wear a white Belt again since I want to keep training in other Martial arts and im willing to start all over again.
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GrrrArg
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Joined: 25 May 2003
Posts: 1300
Location: Newcastle, England
Styles: karate of some form

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My white belt has pride of place alongside all my other past belts, IMO white is the most important belt you can ever have, you can't get a brown, ..pink?.. or a black belt without first having had a black belt.
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