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pittbullJudoka
Black Belt
Joined: 25 Jun 2004
Posts: 1169
Location: Tennessee
Styles: Ryu Kyu Kempo,Wrestling,Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
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Taikyoku sho
Heian Sho
Heian Ni
Heian Son
Heian Yo
Heian Go
Pinan Go
Tekki Sho
Tekki Ni
Nahanchi San
Bassia Dia
Konku
This excludes the katas I have forgotten from when I was practising Shorin Ryu |
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Traymond
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 26 Nov 2008
Posts: 997
Location: Michigan
Styles: Sensei of Brasshand Style, but practicioner of many
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| And their are other smaller ways of telling, but just look at the movements and figure out if its a kata or a pattern. |
Is there a difference? I always understood that pattern and kata were essentially the same thing. Like using the word "form." |
A pattern to most "extreme" traditional Martial artists, is an insulting way of talking about a kata, because a pattern has no life, while kata needs life breathed into it. |
To me, it was all the same: kata=pattern=form=hyung, etc. In many TKD schools, the forms are referred to as patterns. We obviously don't use the term kata, simply because it is a Japanese term, but the Korean equivalent is the word hyung, and the English equivalent would be form or pattern. I have never heard of the exclusivity of any of the terms before. But hey, to each his own. |
Sorry its been a long time since I was in Tkd...but I thought the forms of Tae Kwon Do were referred to as Poomse?...
And When I spoke about the traditional martial artist I meant the Traditional Okinawan Martial artist (Referring to the styles that I have been in).
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DWx
Black Belt
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 6455
Location: UK
Styles: Tae Kwon Do & Yang family Tai Chi
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry its been a long time since I was in Tkd...but I thought the forms of Tae Kwon Do were referred to as Poomse?... |
Poomse is only used for WTF style and their forms.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry its been a long time since I was in Tkd...but I thought the forms of Tae Kwon Do were referred to as Poomse?... |
Poomse is only used for WTF style and their forms. |
That is another word I forgot. Actually, the ATA refers to their forms as Poomse, too.
In the end, they're all just another word for the same thing.
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the beast
Black Belt
Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1313
Location: Pittsburgh Pa
Styles: Shotokan
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Kicho( Taikyoku shodan)
Pinan 1-5
Chinte
Basai Dai
Tekki Shodan
Hajimente
Am learning Tekki Nidan
and working on Futatsu
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Traymond
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 26 Nov 2008
Posts: 997
Location: Michigan
Styles: Sensei of Brasshand Style, but practicioner of many
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Oh haha thank you, I thought my korean heritage was failing me a bit.
so the ITF does not use it than, just the WTF and the ATA?
And beast...
do you know if their is a video somewhere where I can see Futatsu....I like the name and would like to see it... 
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white owl
Black Belt
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
Posts: 1642
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Styles: shotokan
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Taikyoku 1 (we call Kicho Kata)
Pinan 1
Pinan 2
Pinan 3
Pinan 4
Pinan 5
Tekki 1
Chinte
Basai Dai
Kibon
We are a sister school to a Goshin Jutsu school so we are learning there katas an so far I got;
Hajimente
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Killer Miller
Brown Belt
Joined: 29 Nov 2002
Posts: 732
Location: California
Styles: JKA Shotokan
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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Oh haha thank you, I thought my korean heritage was failing me a bit.
so the ITF does not use it than, just the WTF and the ATA? |
I've seen the ITF use the word "tul" as well. I don't see the word poomse used with the ITF forms.
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Traymond
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 26 Nov 2008
Posts: 997
Location: Michigan
Styles: Sensei of Brasshand Style, but practicioner of many
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Oh ok..see you learn something new everyday...
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