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Prototype
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OneKickWonder
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| I'd say whatever your instructor thinks, having seen in in context, after a minimum of an hour's worth of constant action as found in a grading, where he can see how it fits with other techniques and when fatigued. |
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Prototype
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| I'd say whatever your instructor thinks, having seen in in context, after a minimum of an hour's worth of constant action as found in a grading, where he can see how it fits with other techniques and when fatigued. |
I don't train anymore. What level is this at your club? By that I mean relative to students who throw head kicks, what belt level would this be at? |
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OneKickWonder
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I think the key point here is that there is no such thing as a grade for one kick. At least not that I've ever heard of.
Your grade represents what your instructors think of your general martial development. It's so much more than technique. It is attitude, spirit, physical ability and so much more. Techniques are just a training tool. |
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shortyafter
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Styles: Kyokushinkai, Shotokan
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| OneKickWonder wrote: |
I think the key point here is that there is no such thing as a grade for one kick. At least not that I've ever heard of.
Your grade represents what your instructors think of your general martial development. It's so much more than technique. It is attitude, spirit, physical ability and so much more. Techniques are just a training tool. |
Just wanted to give a big +1 to this post. Spot on. |
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Kusotare
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Joined: 02 Feb 2013
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Styles: Traditional Japanese Karate, Koryu Bujutsu (Jujutsu, Iaido and Kenjutsu)
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The clip is very short and fast, but from what I can see, technically the kick needs some work IMO.
Regardless of height, there is something unstable about the kick.
If I freeze frame it just after the kicks lands - your chest is pointing towards the floor.
Combatively, this is not a good position to be in, but also it suggests the timing and core muscle rotation is out of alignment.
As a rule of thumb, I teach my students to look over the front of their lead shoulder as they kick (mae-geri, mawashi-geri and yoko-geri), not the their back, which is what you are doing.
Keep training though, it will come.
K.
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Prototype
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The clip is very short and fast, but from what I can see, technically the kick needs some work IMO.
Regardless of height, there is something unstable about the kick.
If I freeze frame it just after the kicks lands - your chest is pointing towards the floor.
Combatively, this is not a good position to be in, but also it suggests the timing and core muscle rotation is out of alignment.
As a rule of thumb, I teach my students to look over the front of their lead shoulder as they kick (mae-geri, mawashi-geri and yoko-geri), not the their back, which is what you are doing.
Keep training though, it will come.
K. |
Yes but the problem is that what people prescribe as mistakes or missunderstandings, is 9 times out of 10 just my own physical attributes, and employing them to the best of my abilities. I don't think I could ever make a major revision to my technique, even if I wanted to. It's not like a punch. I can kick faster, harder, but mechanical modifications are way harder, if you aren't naturally flexible. |
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Prototype
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Also note that when I kick targets it's technically different from doing kata kicks.
See here
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wMQ5lzK6YAM
Two completely different kicks mechanically |
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P.A.L
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Joined: 26 May 2004
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Location: Texas
Styles: Shorin-ryu
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I put it at top 40% among Korean arts kickers but it was more interesting if you would have done it slower or with a moment of locking the technique. a hold would show the strength which comes with time and training. if this kick , is the best you can do and you don't have any major physical limitation, I can only say you are above 6 months practicing either at home or a club.
I have two questions for you :
1- can you open your legs 180. if you can NOT then is it a physical limitation or you need more training time?
2-can you stay in Shiko dachi for 2 minutes ? if NOT, is it a physical limitation or you need more training time? |
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Kusotare
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| Kusotare wrote: |
The clip is very short and fast, but from what I can see, technically the kick needs some work IMO.
Regardless of height, there is something unstable about the kick.
If I freeze frame it just after the kicks lands - your chest is pointing towards the floor.
Combatively, this is not a good position to be in, but also it suggests the timing and core muscle rotation is out of alignment.
As a rule of thumb, I teach my students to look over the front of their lead shoulder as they kick (mae-geri, mawashi-geri and yoko-geri), not the their back, which is what you are doing.
Keep training though, it will come.
K. |
Yes but the problem is that what people prescribe as mistakes or missunderstandings, is 9 times out of 10 just my own physical attributes, and employing them to the best of my abilities. I don't think I could ever make a major revision to my technique, even if I wanted to. It's not like a punch. I can kick faster, harder, but mechanical modifications are way harder, if you aren't naturally flexible. |
There is a school of thought that says if you can't kick head correctly (albeit due to your own physiological limitations) - then don't kick head!
Your second vid was definitely better - although I'm not a fan of counter torqueing the lead hand guard (I know some croups do this and I have heard arguments for and against).
K.
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on the post.
