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Warp Spider
Brown Belt
Joined: 03 Jul 2003
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Location: The Origin of the Universe
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| anyone who knows anything would not argue that the better grappler has the best chance of ending up on top. |
That is what you said. You said the grappler had the best chance of ending up on top. That makes it your argument. Thus, you are arguing that the better grappler has the best chance of ending up on top. Arguing something means expressing your argument, arguing WITH is diputing that same argument. The difference is very important.
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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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I say a good traditional Jujutsu practioner in a real fight would have an advantage. There are throws and take downs without ever going down with your attacker. A grappler does have a better chance of ending on top if he knows how to strike as well. A well rounded fighter will be better off than a grappler.
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| TJS wrote: |
| anyone who knows anything would not argue that the better grappler has the best chance of ending up on top. |
That is what you said. You said the grappler had the best chance of ending up on top. That makes it your argument. Thus, you are arguing that the better grappler has the best chance of ending up on top. Arguing something means expressing your argument, arguing WITH is diputing that same argument. The difference is very important. |
sure thing, keep playing word games. |
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JohnnyS
Green Belt
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
Posts: 444
Location: Australia
Styles: BJJ, Shootfighting, TKD, Goju
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Warp Spider,
I said that the better grappler will end up on top. What is so hard to understand about that?
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Warp Spider
Brown Belt
Joined: 03 Jul 2003
Posts: 615
Location: The Origin of the Universe
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| TJS wrote: |
| anyone who knows anything would not argue that the better grappler has the best chance of ending up on top. |
| TJS wrote: |
| I said that the better grappler will end up on top. What is so hard to understand about that? |
I realize that. Do you understand the use of the verb "argue"? If you do, you said that you know nothing. If you do not, you said the exact opposite of what you meant.
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TJS
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Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| So basically you dont have any real answer but insted your like to point out typos? |
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aznkarateboi
Brown Belt
Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Posts: 627
Styles: shaolin gung fu southern style
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| WarpSpider, as this is an online debate and typos are possible, I believe that you are the one that needs to rethink the definition of the word 'argue'. In short, you should try harder to point out mistakes in the opponent's argument, not typing accuracy. |
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Patrick
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